Were the old racist Confederate white men right about black people?

Bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

 

One of their strengths is the ability to run a Western style system of democracy.

 

I just want to say to the people in here that talk about how many more blacks rape than whites.Could it possibly have something to do with the fact that rapes by white men are far less reported. A black man rapes a white woman she sure as heck will go to the cops. If a woman is raped by her "nice white" date she is more scared to report it. If a black man rapes he is an animal. If a white man rapes she asked for it.

 

Blacks may be twice more likely to commit violent crimes than whites (28%) but approximately 69% of all violent crimes committed in the US are attributed to whites, proportionate to the nation's demographic make-up.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-43

 

I doubt this very much. How many white guys do you see taking a black girl out on a date in the first place?

In 2005 there were over 37,500 rapes of white women by black men. There were ZERO rapes of black women by white men. Are you going to tell me black girls are so afraid of white men that not a single one would report their rapist?

 

Socioeconomics. What are the percentages of black people living in poverty? I mean those white confederates did prevent them from owning resources, getting educated, and having freedom.

 

Wrong. Hispanics are included in the "white" statistics. The FBI is going to start separating out the Hispanic crimes from the white crimes starting next year. Should be interesting...

 

If you want to throw out the "poverty" excuse we would have seen higher levels of crime from blacks at times when they were more impoverished. During the Depression there was a 1 in 2 unemployment rate in the black community and the crime rate was lower than it was in the 90's, when blacks were gaining significant economic ground.

If you want to throw out the "racism" excuse, I don't think anybody would argue that blacks faced more racism in 1960 than they do today, yet they are committing more crime now than they were 50 years ago.

Left-wing excuses don't work on this issue. You guys destabilized and destroyed the family unit, allowed black women to marry the Government and gave men the option of leaving their responsibilities to take care of their wives and children, encouraged promiscuity and pornography, attacked religious foundations, destroyed inner city schools by lowering standards, and ignored the problem of minority crime.

 

I am sick to death of the racism in this country. Until we do something about the underlying problem, nothing will change. It is the fact that everyone feels the need to be either "liberal" or "conservative". The liberals want to make up for things that can never be made up for and the conservatives feel like the blacks should just get over it by now. Should we not look at the problems right now and make up or own minds instead of blindly following two groups that obviously have no answers. There are a lot of reasons for the black crime rates. They run a lot deeper than the simple explanations given here. I know one thing though it has nothing to do with skin color. NO other race except maybe Asian people and Native Americans have been treated worse than the black man, and I am not talking about slavery. Does this lead me to believe they should be treated as victims, no. But, until everyone recognizes the fact, nothing will change.Did the war on poverty help, no it made things much worse.They are given just enough to survive, but not enough to rise up.What if all black people in the system got a job tomorrow. Do you really think that is what the establishment wants? Conservative or Liberal? No, that would take form them. People love to talk and say that they feel bad for social wrongs, but no one really wants to do anything about it. It is easier to spout the same old tired rhetoric. Maybe when we see ourselves as human beings and not "black" or "white" or "conservative" or "liberal". I am white, but that does not make me feel prouder than anyone else. We have a horrible history too. Why were most of the worst leaders in world history white? Because whites are inherently bad? One more side note- If I were one of the "racist white guys" of the past, I would have been afraid to set blacks free too. They had a right to be scared. Did the blacks come and take the revenge (some may call rightly deserved) on the slave owners? No. The slave owners were evil and could not believe that anyone else could not be. You see others as a reflection of yourself.

 

I didn't throw out any racism excuse. Just basic Socioeconomics. Just like poor white people commit more crimes than rich white people. Pretty easy stuff to comprehend for the non racists! But I know you are a frequent poster on Stormfront so nothing I say will change the racism.

 

No, I want to say that white men are more afraid to rape black women than white women. They are louder and more likely to report it. They stick to white women because they know they would be more fearful or ashamed to report it. You also answered your own question how many white men date black women? I was talking about white men raping white women. Way under reported. Please do your research on this too. What was your point anyway rape is only bad when the races are mixed?

 

There wouldn't be first and second worlds without the freedom you mistake for "exploitation by the rich," we would all still be third world. Without that, you wouldn't have a computer or an internet...or literally every other thing that makes your life easier and better today. The robber with the gun has convinced you to look the other way, to blame his enemy while he robs you. Nice trick that. How long will you keep falling for it?

 

That racism drum you want to keep banging is a real drum, but its true name is government, and it's not some rich white slave owner somewhere "out there," or "back there," but the manipulation towards government ends and the ends of government's true constituency.

 

Even racist old Abe Lincoln expressed doubts about the abilities of blacks and whites to mix successfully.

I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races. There is physical difference between the two which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n5p-4_Morgan.html

 

I will say here, while upon this subject, that I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution in the States where it exists. I believe I have no right to do so. I have no inclination to do so. I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and black races. There is a physical difference between the two which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together on the footing of perfect equality; and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position. I have never said anything to the contrary, but I hold that, notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence,—the right of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas that he is not my equal in many respects, certainly not in color, perhaps not in intellectual and moral endowments; but in the right to eat the bread without the leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal, and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every other man.

I have chiefly introduced this for the purpose of meeting the Judge’s charge that the quotation he took from my Charleston speech was what I would say down South among the Kentuckians, the Virginians, etc., but would not say in the regions in which was supposed to be more of the Abolition element. I now make this comment: That speech from which I have now read the quotation, and which is there given correctly—perhaps too much so for good taste—was made away up north in the Abolition District of this State par excellence, in the Lovejoy District,—in the personal presence of Lovejoy, for he was on the stand with us when I made it. It had been made and put in print in that region only three days less than a month before the speech made at Charleston, the like of which Judge Douglas thinks I would not make where there was any Abolition element. I only refer to this matter to say that I am altogether unconscious of having attempted any double-dealing anywhere, that upon one occasion I may say one thing, and leave other things unsaid, and vice versa; but that I have said anything on one occasion that is inconsistent with what I have said elsewhere, I deny,—at least I deny it so far as the intention is concerned. I find that I have devoted to this topic a larger portion of my time than I had intended. I wished to show, but I will pass it upon this occasion, that in the sentiment I have occasionally advanced upon the Declaration of Independence, I am entirely borne out by the sentiments advanced by our old Whig leader, Henry Clay, and I have the book here to show it from; but because I have already occupied more time than I intended to do on that topic, I pass over it.

Abraham Lincoln, Political Debates Between Lincoln and Douglas (1897, p. 358 ).

 

Higher percentages yes, but not higher numbers. As below 2012 census figures show 18.9m non-hispanic whites in poverty and 10.9m blacks in poverty.

As we see there are almost twice the number of whites in poverty than blacks therefor yet still blacks being only 14% of the population commit close to 50% of the murders.

What we do see is direct correlations between income and IQs. Regardless of race 110 IQs will on average earn better than IQs 100. Also the lower the IQ the higher the crime rate and chance of being in poverty. SE Asian have a slightly higher IQ than whites and magically have slightly lower crime rates.

[video=youtube;sHwzfpS0d2c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHwzfpS0d2c[/video]


Violent crimes per 100,000 people:

35 for Asian countries.
42 for European countries.
149 for African countries.

 

Careful the leftist's religion espouses egalitarianism, they deny people could evolve differently, its almost like they deny evolution. The only reason Asians and whites dont dominate the gold medals in the100m sprint is because they're lazy buggers. If they did dominate it would because of racism - of course.

 

Please go back to stormfront and quit polluting this forum with ignorant, racist swill.

 

Just work in a pharmacy anywhere near the inner city of any city and you will have an entirely different perspective of anything you have imagined. I'm sure it goes the same way for ERs there. This isn't politics, this is real life.

 

Doesn't justify your position. If anything the genes from those old racist white guys would have helped cull the violence within the black community. Because you don't see this same type of violent behavior within the white community.

Want to try again?

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Do you have anything to justify that position? That more rapes by white people go unreported? Not just more, but a statistically SIGNIFICANT percentage more?

 

Well you ignore the fact that the numbers for whites includes the Hispanic demographic as well. However, what you report is EXACTLY what we would expect to see. Whites+Hispanics = ~65% of the total population. So you would expect to see a number around 65% (69 is very close). But you don't see that same type of distribution within the black community do you?

Blacks only represent ~14% of the total population. Yet they're committing ~28% of the violent crime. They represent DOUBLE in violent crime what they represent in the total population. That's a problem and is UNIQUE to the black population.

 

That does not fully address the argument.

The point being made, at least further in the thread, is that these percentages hold true FOR EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY. Not simply the united states.

Regardless of poverty, regardless of socioeconomic status, regardless of country, regardless of the history of that country, regardless of which group/race is in a position of power... EVERY SINGLE COUNTRY (at least that I've seen and if you have evidence that contradicts that claim, please provide it) these numbers are true. Black people are ALWAYS overrepresented in regards to violent crime.

If it was simply a poverty problem or a problem of how the blacks were treated in America, those numbers would not hold true all over the world. But they do hold true.

 

Then explain why these numbers hold true for every single country, without exception, if it has nothing to do with skin color.

 

If you can refute anything I've stated, then by all means go ahead.

If not, go shove your head back in that hole in the ground you call political correctness.

 

Let's look at the arguments for people who do NOT support my position in this thread.

#1: White people deserve it.
#2: It's the fault of victimhood (Sanskrit stated this but his only answer when confronted with these statistics that occur in all countries is "I'm sure they're victims there too")
#3: Several people claim it's not about skin color but have provided nothing more than a moral claim of political correctness on their part
#4: White people didn't want the competition for their violence.
#5: Discrimination in the US caused it (But when confronted with the fact that these number are true regardless of country, they have provided no reason as to why this is true)
#6: Several claims of racism, bigotry and sending America back to the third-world has been claimed... while still providing no justification for the numbers
#7: Blacks act this way because they have white genes from slave-owners raping them.
#8: White people rape even more prolifically than blacks, however everybody is afraid to report them so that's why the numbers are skewed


If that's all you folks got... then I'm going to go ahead and declare victory... because those arguments are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing pathetic.