Colorado sell $19 in Cannabis, $1.9 Million to Schools and Crime Down 10%

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  1. ridehard2208

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    Here are just 8 links on why no state should legalize Marijuana except for medical then all access to driving and use of firearms should be restricted!

    Marijuana involvement in fatal accidents increases in Colorado 05/19/2014 | ConsumerAffairs
    http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news...l-accidents-increases-in-colorado-051914.html

    Study: Fatal Car Crashes Involving Marijuana Have Tripled February 4, 2014 9:14 PM
    SEATTLE (CBS Seattle) – According to a recent study, fatal car crashes involving pot use have tripled in the U.S.
    http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2014/02/04/study-fatal-car-crashes-involving-marijuana-have-tripled/

    Medical Marijuana Involvement In Fatal Accidents In Colorado
    By News Staff ScientificBlogging | May 15th 2014
    http://www.science20.com/profile/news_staff

    Marijuana Use Increases Risk of Traffic Crashes and Deaths
    http://www2.potsdam.edu/alcohol/fil...eases-Risk-of-Traffic-Crashes-and-Deaths.html

    Marijuana Use Linked to Increase in Fatal Crashes
    Jason Siu AutoGuide.com | Jun 10 2014, 8:01 AM
    http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2014/06/marijuana-use-linked-increase-fatal-crashes.html

    People high on marijuana beat their wives and children. They smoke and drive and kill people. They engage in violent crime. They do it all the time.
    This is how USA Today reported on a recent federal study drug testing people after they were arrested:
    In Chicago, 87% tested positive for drug use and in Sacramento, 78% tested positive. Many of the men — 40% in Chicago and 29% in Sacramento — tested positive for more than one drug.
    Marijuana is the most common drug in every city where testing was done except Atlanta, where cocaine is most prevalent, the study found
    http://www.crimeinamerica.net/2010/01/27/crime-news-time-to-legalize-marijuana/

    Adolescent Substance Use: America’s #1 Public Health Problem
    Adolescent substance use—smoking, drinking, misusing prescription drugs and using illegal drugs—is, by any measure, a public health problem of epidemic proportion, presenting clear and present danger to millions of America’s teenagers and severe and expensive long-range consequences for our entire population.
    http://www.casacolumbia.org/addiction-research/reports/adolescent-substance-use

    Marijuana is drug most often linked to crime, study finds
    By Rob Hotakainen McClatchy Washington BureauMay 23, 2013
    Gil Kerlikowske, the White House director of national drug-control policy, said a study by his office showed a strong link between drug use and crime
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/23/192101/marijuana-is-drug-most-often-linked.html
     
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    You are living in a Reefer Madness Fiction World, those who smoke pot in states that legalized it are the Same people that smoked it before, prohibition never worked other than to cost people money for doing something less harmful than several legal things and for doing something that is none of the governments business, well now it is $$$$$$$
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Pssst, it is already illegal to drive under the influence, and since the numbers of users has not risen the claims that pot smokers are causing havoc on our streets is pure BS. Same goes for crime related to pot, people do not commit crimes to buy a bag of weed, you are confusing pot and drugs which are addictive.
     
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    So your boss doesnt know your a pot head?

    Why dont you walk in his office right now, and tell him.

    Im sure he, like you, knows that pot gives you special abilities for success at everything.

    Make sure you tell him that albert einstein was borderline retarded until he smoked pot, and only after he toked on his bong was he able to unlock the secrets of relativity.

    Im sure youre destined for greatness.
     
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    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    You really are not all that bright are ya, I do not smoke pot, I did when I was young but stopped long ago, maybe if you had being paying attention you would not look so foolish and uninformed here. No, I doubt you will.

    Special abilities like yours? Nope I'll pass.

    I am nearing the end of my working days and have done very well for myself, probably a whole lot better than you will when you graudate from highschool and get a real job.
     
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    As Casper already mentioned, we already have laws in place for driving under the "influence". This doesnt just mean alcohol, you can be under the "influence" of many things....Booze..Pot...Perscription drugs.

    To pretend that this harmless drug should be kept illegal because some morons will drive while using it is like blaming the gun for people getting shot.

    We have laws in place, and they are sufficient to cover this. If rates start going up because potheads are driving while toking...then treat them like a drunk driver.
     
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    Why did you stop smoking pot? Its super awesome right? Dont you want the government to make lotsa money?
     
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    none of his bosses business unless he goes into work high or drunk
     
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    Seems like you got nothing better to do than troll people with common sense.

    If every sucessful person you know is a pot head, maybe its the pot that gives em this super success
     
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    I accept your concession.
     
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    I do not drink either.. but I do not want it made illegal... common sense
     
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    I probably could’ve gone on all day with the research that sites had on this subject just like the ones about being linked to crime, car fatalities, and the epidemic of teens abuse of it in America #1 problem with Teens But I really know that this all falls on deaf ears because #1 first a person with an addictive habit will never admit they are addicted, and second I had three good friends growing up all with an addiction to cannabis one died at 24 high on the job didn’t see the street sweeper and got pulled under! Second almost died driving a back country road high missed a curb ran straight into a brick wall at 70 mph never even hit the brakes, 6 mons in the hosp., while there found an orderly to supply him with cannabis, still alive but broke and in a dead end job he’ll probably die in! The last one middle income job own business probably will die in but loves what he does and after married late in life finally with help quit cannabis! But you all go on and fool yourselves but please don’t pass it on to the next generation!

    But Marijuana Addiction Does Happen
    By Buddy T About.com Alcoholism Updated May 16, 2014
    Someone who becomes addicted or dependent upon marijuana is also an abuser, but will also display some of the classic addictive behavior symptoms
    http://alcoholism.about.com/od/pot/a/pot_addiction.htm

    Is marijuana addictive?
    Long-term marijuana use can lead to addiction; that is, people have difficulty controlling their drug use and cannot stop even though it interferes with many aspects of their lives
    http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/marijuana/marijuana-addictive

    How Is Marijuana Physically Addictive?
    LIVESTRONG.COM
    But heavy marijuana use has been known to lead to psychological addiction and social dependence, according to the Center for Substance Abuse Research at the University of Maryland.
    http://www.livestrong.com/article/29994-marijuana-physically-addictive/

    Is marijuana addictive? You can bet your heroin on that!
    Yes, marijuana and opiates are connected, so what does that mean?
    Published on January 24, 2010 by Adi Jaffe, Ph.D. in All About Addiction
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...s-marijuana-addictive-you-can-bet-your-heroin

    
     
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    I was taking Martial Arts Classes and running 5 miles a day, smoking (cigs or pot) was not what I needed to be doing at the time, I simply never went back, clear it up for ya? That does not mean that I now feel I have the right to tell others they are wrong and in fact I see nothing wrong with it someone wants to smoke one in the evening or weekend, I far prefer to be around someone that is a little stoned than someone that is drunk, drunks can get very stupid and nasty, pot smokes mellow out and raid the refig.
     
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    This stuff rightfully falls on deaf ears as long as we're ok with Alcohol being legal. Blame the user, not the substance......same with guns.
     
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    First off operating a automobile under the influence (of anything) is stupid and against the law.

    Funny thing in my many years on the planet and having been around Many people from all walks of life that smoke I have never met even one that was addicted to pot, know why, it is not Physically addictive. If some claim they are, it is a mental addication issue just as being addicted to Dr Pepper or Peanut Brittle, if they stopped they suffer no actual physical effects.
     
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    The government has no business making laws against what people do in the privacy of their own home, period. They can make laws that say one cannot drive or fly a plane because it can impact public safety, but what people do in their own home is none of the governments, or anyone elses, business.
    And the Cons claim they want Less Government.......................
     
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    Spoken like a true pothead, even with the info from reputatable sorces you still deny which is also a sign of addiction!

    Also Casper I thought you were this big survivalist trainer, and then you of all people on this op should know one of the first rules of survival is to stay hydrated & nourished (even if it means recycling urine & eating grubs and bugs to keep a clear mind, now where does ir say cannabis is natural and therefore ok to eat or smoke because it gives you highten senses! Casper You got sum plainin to do!!
     
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    Dude don't get me wrong I believe one should be able to put into their body what they want as long as it doesn't affect the lives of others, and I know for a fact that one joint makes most people hagh as a kite and unable to reason properly, a more season smoker maybe two or three ( esspectally since the cammabis is five times stronger than the 60's) so it's much more likely someone smoking one joint will be much more impared that a person drinking one or two beers with the boys! Also the body can only hold so much liquid then there she blows, however smokw is lighter than air and the body can take as much as you give it until you pass out or die! And don't even be stupid enough to compare it to gun ownership one has nothing to do with the other unless your talking about using one to protect your pot field from them thar revenewers!
     
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    Ok, then we have some agreement here.

    I compared it to guns, rightfully so IMO, because it's not the substance the jumps behind the wheel.....it's the person who smoked some, that doesnt have the regard, or respect for the lives of his fellow citizens that he should, who kills them. We hear this same kind of argument wiht the gun grabbers, who place the spotlight on the tool rather than the person who used it.

    It's not the weed. Its the peoples fault. People should have more respect for automobiles, and the damage they can do. Unfortunately too many people think that them getting home, or somewhere on time....is more important than the lives they put at risk.
     
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    Have you ever considered being around people who are sober?

    - - - Updated - - -

    I dont smoke pot.... but I dont want it make legal.... common sense....
     
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    Sweet then you can inform us, how pot makes everyone successful
     
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    Around them all the time, you seem to think pot smokers smoke all the time, teens might but they also do the same with other drugs such as alcohol. I know Lawyers, police officers, at least one judge and many engineers and other people in high skilled jobs that smoke and drink, few of them have any problems controlling their consumption, if one does have an issue they probably should not be doing anything, as they most likely have an addictive nature.
    Have a Good Weekend, gotta go.
     
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    First of all you're right it is stupid & illegal for some one high to drive, but what would you qualify as stupid like what is someone who knows that if the use of something like let's say Oh Yeah Cannabis is Illegal and can cause them to lose their job and their house, and possabily end them up in jail but still does it you mean stupid like that! Furthermore as an employer for more than 40yrs I do know that it is used on the job and causes accidents and that why comanpies and Ins Co. started mandatory drug screening after an accident on the job! And I Personally know I lost quite few employees that way, also had an employee that hab the habit was up for a manager training position which he had been seeking for several yrs, I wouldn't sign off on him so he transfered to another unit that would and ended up terminated. Thing I had worked with him for yrs and cut him some slack and tried to get him to stop, even excused him from work a few times for being high! He also just got married to his newborn babymomma and really needed the promotion and seemed to be cleaning up his act, till I caught him in the mens room getting stacked while preforming manager duties, when I caught him he cried giving me his hard luck story about even his mom and dad smoked and he really needed a break! So I sent him home with a write up for be under the influence on the job( But agreed to keep it out of his file if he stuck to my plan) Demoted him back to an employee and would take 2 yrs to work back into the sys. He went behind my back with another GM ( that want the $2,000. sigh up bonus for him ( even though when I found out I told him he would fail the drug screen he went ahead and sent him through) of course he failed! Then to add injury to insult he came running back to me to do something for him, sadly I told him he already did it all to himself!
    So dude if you've been around it that long and haven't seen stories like this and the others I posted eariler then you;re either too wasted to see or that damned monkey jumped right off your back and is setting right square in the middle of your face! So in closing Dude if you smell (*)(*)(*)(*) wipe that monkey off your face!
     
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    Dude you're right we are getting closer and I respect your opinion, however again the person grabbing the gun most likely will but sometimes not be under the influence of something and even if is is going to knowingly do something that will kill soneone! However in the cannabis it's is the substance that people are under the influence of ( dimming their reasoning skills ) to grab the gun, get behind the wheel, or even on a sensation high and steps up on that balcony rail and falls to their death! So that's why IMHO I see the Cannabis as the Catyllst not the person ( even though I do still feel that they are responsiable for their actions, due to the fact their had a clear head before somking or eating Cannabis)!
     
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    Dude that's the whole arguement most people might do fine with restricted use but if legal that restricted use will become not restricted at all and even some of your fine friends might fall victim! And just a thought if in law enforcement I would have a hard time respecting them if knowingly broke the law and doesn't say much for their restraint of use, so in the standard you set here about getting behind the wheel wasted Stupid! And just because someone has book sense dosen't give them common sense!
     

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