Charlie Hebdo attack: Man turns himself in, agency reports

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  1. Latherty

    Latherty Well-Known Member

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    Well, you have assumed that the terrorists want the insults to Islam to stop. I think they want to highlight the issue and cause / widen a rift between moderate western muslims and western Christians. To this end, more insults to Mohammed is exactly what they would want to see.

    Calm heads, tolerant, measured and respectful responses using the criminal law are the best way to assure moderate muslims that they are on the right side, and to isolate the fundamentalists.
     
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    Please give me the quote where the New Testament says to kill anyone? :roll:
     
  3. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    I agree that totalitarian belief systems like Sharia Law, the Bible, monarchies like Britain, and communism are bad, that's why I'm a Modern Secular Humanist, which has democracy as it's cornerstone. A much fairer and more compassionate belief system.
     
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    The response to attacks on freedom of speech is more freedom of speech.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    good, they can have it.

    making fun of the ugly bafoon known as Mooooohammmoood is the right of all free people.
     
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    Considering that he was never known to have ever even held a sword in his hand and his most violent act known of in his entire life was overturning the money changers table in the temple, Im not seeing this violence you refer to.
     
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    No, you're wrong here. They don't like satire, but common satire is not the problem. The better way to undermine a fundamentalism is to make it ridiculous. If they are ridiculous, their followers will feel less to be invincible [it's a mind process, also a very strong men, while laughing, has to make more effort than usual to lift weights and it happens he is not able to do that].

    So, no ... same treaty. We have jokes about the Popes and the Catholic clergy ... Ok, we have to have jokes about Muhammad, the Caliph, his camels and so on.
     
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    The OT which the NT specifically says the OT rules don't apply anymore. You have a split in the Presbyterian church now where you have gay and women ministers. Can you find any equivalent in Islam? The only Christian killing gays today are in the Sudan and other parts of Africa and the leaders of the Christian churches that work over there have denounced those killings.

    Face it, Christianity is no were near comparable to Islam and for people like you to claim that it is just facile.
     
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    Now you are quoting Revelations? No one can even agree if that is literal or some meth heads wild drug induced trip. The fact is that the same verse you quoted is in Luke verbatim only Luke used "division" clearly indicating that sword is a cultural euphamism for splitting a group up.

    Your attempt to pain Christianity as the same as Islam today is just pathetic and stupid.
     
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    God also created people with a free will, to either choose to be with Him, or not to be with Him. Jesus knew what the wrong choice entailed, so He tried to help them. Look stop thinking of God as some big powerful father figure up in the sky, telling people that if they don't do this or that he's going to punish them. If the Old Testament gives you that impression, it's because people at that time could not understand God in any other way. Christianity goes a little beyond a don't do this or don't do that it's wrong...because human beings are prideful beings, and we're all limited (sins) in that way. To be a Christian is to acquire the Holy Spirit within one's heart, so people will stop reacting to their passions, and their 'reasoning' will take over.

    So you're saying you have to fight hate with hate? Isn't that the basis of all wars? :roll:
     
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    The Bible is useless. Bin it
     
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    I don't think recognition of its existence is approval. Slavery was permissible under the law. Jesus didn't see his role as dictating law. In contrast to Muhammad who both approved of slavery AND dictated the law that continued the practice.
     
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    Of course, islam should be mocked. It has become a joke religion; like worshiping pig manure.
     
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    Time to increase the mocking of Mohammad, time to start burning down every Mosque in Europe and time to start deporting all non-citizen Muslims and revoking citizenship for those who have gone overseas to fight with ISIS and AQ.
     
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    Can we destroy all the churches as well?
     
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    sounds like Kristalnacht.
     
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    The only moderate Muslim is one who rejects Sharia and embraces secularism, they are in the extreme minority within the Islamic world, the majority of Muslims are Islamists as proven by numerous polls, there is no such thing as a moderate Islamist, just because they don't call for the slaughter of civilians to achieve their goals does not make them moderate, a moderate Muslim would say that not only was this attack wrong but insulting the prophet is an inalienable right protected by freedom of speech and freedom of religion sadly those Muslims are to reiterate in the extreme minority.

    He was a disgusting pedophile and genocidal war criminal.
     
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    As much as I know telling you this is useless, even my son (who is a big-time atheist) disagrees with that.

    I don't think you can find anything outside of Shakespeare anything that approaches the discourse of the human condition and suffering than the Book of Job, for instance. Or the Book of Lamentations.

    Then there's Proverbs which has a great deal of wisdom even if you leave God completely out of the equation. Psalms might be tricky though.
     
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    As soon as Christians start slaughtering people for insulting Jebus sure.
     
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    Well let's just keep the bible away from politics. It is a load of a bullocks in that field.

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    Priests are molesting kids in churches. Churches must be destroyed. Christians must adapt to a secular society and leave their religious nonsense behind. Time to move forward.
     
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    Nope Kristalnacht is what's occurring to Jews in Europe right now with the steady rise in Muslim immigration there has been a dramatic rise in anti-Semitic attacks, not to mention attacks on women, gays, and non-Muslims in general.
     
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    No Jesus doesn't have the ability to end hell as long as that is what people want. If your whole existence is partying, buying things, going to restaurants, gossiping with friends, sex, etc., and you die and the physical world you live in doesn't exist, nor do your friends, and you haven't tried to adjust your life to that otherworld existence....well my dear man, you are in hell. Think about it?:oldman:
     
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    White racists attack anything that is different.
     
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    Muslim extremists attack anything that offends their feelings.
     
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    Not surprising, as the Qur'an specifically calls for hatred of Jews, gays, and non-Muslims....not unlike Hitler.
     

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