Big Bang ushers in the heavens and the earth...?

Now you are just getting nasty.

Post ONE THING that I have posted that YOU can provide evidence that would show I have posted a flasehood.

AboveAlpha

 

So a member...Prunny....posts I rarely, if ever, know what I am talking about....I ask him to provide one think I have posted that is a falsehood....and...nothing.

AboveAlpha

 

When I Iook back at my own view of the world as of 1988 when I was 29 I am in awe at how ignorant.... how self-righteous and how narrow minded I really was.

At that time I would have been profoundly offended by the idea that all of us.............. previous to perhaps any of the major Big Bang or perhaps better yet..... Big Expansion........ type events........ were somehow....."One!"

AboveAlpha....... at that time if I had read much of your writings I also...… like Prunepicker..... would have been offended by your ideas...… although I now am certain that you are very very very close to some of the biggest and most important truths that our minds can possibly grasp!?

http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/

Then.... it seems that The Ancient of Days the Father and the Ancient of Days the Mother decided to invent time and space and grant us "individuality" and separate identities so that we could learn a whole new type of lesson from this type of perception?????!

Those of us whose ideas are "nailed down by The Word- Logos" in written form......… tend to be profoundly offended by the greatest truths of all?!

 

OK.... let's start with some of his more simple ideas....... Is there a gaping error in this paragraph?

.http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund1.htm

What about in this paragraph?


http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/book/life1.htm

 

Then the people, including the apostles who could not understand what is so clear to you, were idiots? LOL...

The correct understanding required spiritual insight, which even some of the apostles did not have, not to mention the masses of people. For if His words were so plain and understandable, then there would have never been a problem in those people comprehending. All of this is in the gospels. And that part is clear.

Let me ask you a simple question. Have you EVER found the Kingdom within? Inside your own consciousness? Did you find the door, knocked, and it opened? What was behind that door sir? Christ taught this, and you should be able to tell me, unless you think what he taught is meaningless. Of no importance whatsoever. That he wasted his breath.

Have you even ever read what Christ taught? I am beginning to wonder. You just read Paul? A Pauline Christian? You follow Paul?

 

I have a better idea. If you have just 15 minutes, follow the link provided and a biologist will explain it.... just watch the first 15 minutes and it will be covered, once he discusses other "fields". I think he would be the one to do it, since he has devoted much of his life to it.

http://www.sheldrake.org/videos/morphic-resonance-lecture-at-the-igeem

 

You have it backwards. Scripture does not state God is made in our image, Adam was made in His image, then He sinned and his eyes were opened. If Adam's eyes were not open before he sinned, is it possible Adam was a spiritual being made in God'a image?

That makes logical sense to me. Also, if there was death before sin, instead of what Scripture states that death came because of sin, then the Messiah's coming and His Atonement for our sins was not necessary.

 

You are illogical here.

The Wave Functions exist but NOT the material Universe...

The material universe appears AFTER an OBSERVER recognizes the wave functions and they collapse.

 

Piece of cake.
1. Not finding PROOF within the Genome project.
2. Anything you've posted about the Bible in the past dozen pages.
3. Telling us that Proofs in Mathematics are the same as science.
4. Your previous post.

If you go back post by post to the beginning of this thread alone, you'll
find yourself posting falsehood after falsehood.

Not only are you incorrect you still, for whatever reason, believe you're
right even with the evidence, i.e. links, provided. You on the other hand
cannot back up anything you post.

I find you to be of extremely poor repute simply because can't back yourself
and your obvious lack of a scientific background.
with evidence.

 

Hahaaaa,...
Yes, you can add that too,... "Adam was a spiritual vision."

The idea that man is a metal entity makes sense, and that his "soul", or psyke' as it is called in the Greek Bible is where this image is formed,... inside man's mind.


Gen. 1:26 And God, (Father Nature, i.e.; Reality), said, Let us, (these Natural Laws, together, in panentheistic expression of the Spirit of God),
make man, (through the process of gradual evolution ending in the finished Adam of this Jesus),...Let us make man, (as a reflection of Reality, in his mind, able, through Truth, to immanently reflect the "I am" of this existence), IN OUR IMAGE, (after the spirit of our orderly panentheistic organization):

 

The attention of God is focused on conceiving Truth as Reali form it in the wake of Reality's frame by frame unfolding.

If man will not recognize truth, then man will be further developed as a next and different species which will do this.

 

It seems clear that Jesus was teaching the Jews that He was The Elijah, returned after 800 years, coming down at the baptism by John, in Matt 3:16-17.
And, Jesus further explained that Christ represented the ideal of Truth, itself.

This revealed the great "mystery of God," (Rev 10:7), in that God MUST be Reality which is imaged by Truth, and born out of it, too.

 

Why not read Genesis clearly and see that science actually agrees with what Genesis says???

Do you doubt these factual correspondences?

Gen 1:1 says a Big Bang beginning did happen.
Gen 1:2 says the formless disk of rocks rotation the Sun was void of global shape, which was true.
Gen 1:3-5 says the Dark Cosmic Age existed before there was any light in the Universe.
Gen 1:6-8 describes the forming of an atmosphere above and waters below.
Gen 1:9-10 describes "all the waters under heaven gathered together into one place," which was a Pangea-like truth.
Gen 1:11-13 explains that the Plant Kingdom came before the Animal Kingdom, which was true.
Gen 1:14-19 tells us that God assigned the Sun and Moon and Stars to keep time on Earth. ("made" in Hebrew means "assigned.")
Gen 1:20-31 explains about the animals and finally, man, made to image "Reality," mentally, in the form of Truth inside his mind.

Chapters 4, 5, and 10 explain the correspondences of the Genealogy with the species of Paleontology:






Chapters 6 thru 9 describe the great mass extinction which occurred 40 thousand years ago, and metaphysically describe the "Ark" as modern man's nervous system and mind, which has carried all the animals into this new Age.
The Three Racial Stocks were Ham, Japheth, and Shem.
These three racial stocks were born 100 thousand years before the 40,000 year long extinction process began. [Gen 5:31]

It all adds up to an amazing factually correct set of statements.

 

God was dwelling in Adam, which is God's image, until the allegorical tree of knowledge and its fruit was eaten. You cannot in your own consciousness separate knowledge from your own self image, your ego. In fact, your ego is the knowledge, from experience, from what you have been taught. If you had no memory at all, absolutely none, zero, you would have no self image at all.

And so as soon as Adam had knowledge, he had a self image. And the self image, is so powerful, as to take over consciousness. When that happened, God could not longer dwell in Adam. Adam was separated from God, by this self image, which got itself into the drivers seat.

Christ came to show man, that a human being could be reconciled to God, by denying, by dying to this self image, this ego, that arose in Eden. Since Christ had no ego, it did not control his body, his thoughts, he was the Second Adam, the one that did not develop the ego. And since Christ was a human being, the flesh, the brain was human, he was the example that indeed man could die unto his ego. And be reconciled with God. For God cannot dwell alongside an ego, that sins by gratifying itself incessantly, even to the point of hurting others.

I am afraid Christianity, missed the whole point of Christ, and someone back then turned him into a blood sacrifice, as per the jewish tradition, and sent humanity off on the wide and well traveled path, instead of the very narrow one on which few feet trample.

But of course, if one saw Christ for what he actually was, and what he was teaching, you could not have such an organized church. There would be no positions for man to take, with its religious authority, dictating to people how to live and so on. In fact, when Christ died, the temple curtain that separated the masses from the holy of holies, in which only ritually cleaned priests could venture, was ripped from top to bottom signifying that no longer did man need a priest as an intercessor. Man could go straight to the inner kingdom, without help from other men, by seeking that kingdom within, finding the door, knocking upon it, to be let in.

Basically Christ was hijacked by the egos of men who needed a position of authority, in a church they created from their own needs and greed. If the real church ever formed, after the death of Christ, they were killed out, for they would have had absolutely nothing to offer to the roman empire, and could have never ever been a state religion. The very history of that church is filled with evil, and if the tree does not bear only good fruit, but bad fruit, one cuts it down and throws it into the fire. So I threw organized Christianity into the fires 50 years ago. For it is utterly false, and it's one literal, Helluva Lie.

 

That Truth is what is in human consciousness, once the ego is denied and one dies to it totally. For the kingdom is within man, but the ego cannot ever find it. For the ego is impure. The Gospel means the Good News. The good news was, the kingdom is at hand, that is within reach, for it is within, and it has always been there. The trouble was, the Jews could never accept this fact. For them, god was totally separated from man, and god could never dwell in man, and if you believed that, it would literally get you killed. And it got JC killed. Christians just don't get it. Just like the priests, they will not enter into the kingdom, and they will keep others out as well. Not much has changed in that respect in 2000 years. Which explains the bloody history of the Church. That tree should have been cut down and thrown into the fires 2000 years ago. But it wasn't.

 

Do you not read my posts?

Good grief.

 

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I thought you said ID seemed reasonable,...
This concept is used to support Creationism, isn't it??

 

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Consciousness is merely an extended duration of Fear during which our Will is free to make decisions, and to collect information about the environment.

The Ego may function here, as could the other seven Archetypes too.
But they have zero to do with understanding Truth, itself.

Yes, the Kingdom of God is inside us, (Luke 17:21), and it is archetypal in that the seven spirits are the agents which man needs to control and regulate.

 

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You Psychology is off here...



1) Lucifer = ............... Id
2) Satan =........ ...........Libido
3) Mammon = ............ Ego
4) Devil = .................. Anima
5) Beelzebub = .......... Self
6) False Prophet =.....Superego
7) False Shepherd = ... Harmony

The Good Shepherd = ...Conscience

 

ID is used to support an intelligent creator. That creator can be anyone.
The idea of it being taught in schools gives and alternative to the intolerant dogma
that's taught today. At least it's a start to providing a "well rounded" education
that's supposed to be taught. I'm not a fan of ID, personally.

 

I have never professed to know everything about Reality and I KNOW that I know just a tiny bit of what Reality really is....but at least I use LOGIC and SCIENCE to formulate what I do know.

When people start disparaging Science and Logic....you KNOW they have issues.

AboveAlpha

 

I looked at the drawings he made in the first link you gave me and yes...it's just doodles and ramblings of a person who is clueless.

Electromagnetism has absolutely NOTHING to do with Gravity.

The second link and what he draws and states is even CRAZIER!!

If there was even the tiniest bit of anything that could be considered a possibility I would tell you.

This is just some guy who is trying to associate various Universal Physical Laws and Universal Realities with each other based upon their representitive Geometric Constructions and Representations.

It's like if I was trying to use the shape of a Donut and say because Blood Cells are also round Donuts are healthy for a person to eat as much as they want.

AboveAlpha

 

Why not just teach the Copenhagen Interpretation which says that an outside separate Observer is required to change Wave Functions into material Reality, which took place at the Big Bang moment?

The "observer" is scientifically required by the Copenhagen Interpretation and it is Science, and it tells people some "Creator" had to pre-exist the Universe.

 

That interpretation made too many uncomfortable, so they had to come up with a theory to get away from it, I think. And something even more far fetched than the Copenhagen Interpretation. LOL...

These implications of QM, have caused many QPs to say, "shut up, and just work the equations" Some QPs though, did think about the implications and once they retired, and could talk about them, they in fact did. But it upsets the atheists in science, and so it's best to discount those retired scientists as indulging in WOO WOO. LOL.