Russia Is Doing It – Russia Is Actually Abandoning The Dollar

We were and are aware that both Georgia and the Ukraine were the CLOSEST as far as language and Culture to Russia.

We were and are also aware that the people in Gerorgia and the Ukraine hate the Russian's more than we do or anyone else does as they know Russian's have been imposing their will Militarily over Georgia and the Ukraine for centuries.

I can tell you this know.....Putin is playing a VERY dangerous game.

So far the U.S. and myself included NEVER THOUGHT THAT ANY MAN...including Putin....would put his own benefit above the entire Nation of Russia but he did....and Putin continues to do so.

The United States has effectivey completely collapsed the Russian Economy and no speaches by Putin or China or members of BRIC are going to change the FACT that THE ONLY WAY RUSSIA CAN GET OUT OF THIS ECONOMIC COLLAPSE.....IS WITH THE HELP OF THE UNITED STATES AND EUROPE!!!

And the thing is all Putin has to do to start the process of the US. repairing the Russian Economy is to just BEGIN to withdraw Russian Forces from the Ukraine.

AboveApha

 

The United States is a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC.....which allows the RIGHTS OF THE MINORITIES NOT BE TRAMPLED UPON BY THE VOTES OF THE MAJORITY!!!

The U.S. Constitution is without a doubt the MOST IMPORTANT ARTICLES AND DECLARATIONS EVER WRITTEN BY MAN IN HUMAN HISTORY!!!

AboveAlpha

 

First of all THE UNITED STATES IS THE LEADING INSTRUMENT OF THE U.N. for FORCING THE RETURN OF GOLD, PAINTINGS AND OTHER EXTREMELY VALUABLE ITEMS TO THEIR ORIGINAL OWNERS.

Just a few years ago...and you can Google this....and I WAS IN PALESTINE AT THE TIME.....After Yasser Arafat had died it was well known that Afafat had stolen the vast majority of Monetary Donations given to the Palestinian State by the United States and the Arab League.

This is just a few things some members can learn about.

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Yasir Arafat and the Palestinian Authority are known internationally for the violence between Israelis and Palestinians. As ruinous as that violence has been, another cancer permeates Arafat's administration; its name is corruption. From firsthand experience, I understand just how deep it is. Here is what I know.

From Optimism to Dismay
On July 1, 1994, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) chairman, Yasir Arafat, arrived triumphant in the Gaza Strip, watched by millions on television across the world. I was already in Ramallah, having traveled there from my family's exile in Qatar in the weeks after Arafat, Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, and President Bill Clinton had signed the Oslo accords in September 1993. Between 1994 and 1996, I and fellow Palestinian businessmen and intellectuals spent many days brainstorming to see what contributions we could make to a Palestinian state. My family was originally from Haifa, and I hoped to witness an Israeli withdrawal of forces and the birth of a democratic Palestinian state. It was a time of optimism among Palestinians. I gathered with friends and business partners around the television in Ramallah and watched Arafat's arrival in the Gaza Strip.

In 1996, I founded the Palestine International Bank (PIB). Thousands of Palestinians in the Palestinian Authority (PA) and the diaspora supported me financially or morally. My investors and I hoped to build a thriving economy in the newly autonomous PA areas. The PIB was truly Palestinian. Headquartered in Ramallah, it used mostly Palestinian capital, although it did receive support from other Arabs. All its reserves were kept inside Palestinian areas, and our shares traded actively on the Palestinian stock exchange. From nothing, we expanded our customer base to more than 15,500. Among those licensed by the newly established Palestine Monetary Authority (PMA), we were the largest bank in the Palestinian territories.

I first met Arafat in April 1995 while trying to secure a banking license for the PIB. This meeting at his Gaza office, though brief, was cordial and encouraging. I thought things would go smoothly. But, as the PIB grew more popular, Arafat's inner circle and, specifically, Muhammad Rashid, a PA official, also known as Khalid Salam and often described as an economic advisor to Arafat and manager of a small percentage of PIB stocks, made it difficult for us to branch out and move forward.[1] The PA, which strictly controls Palestinian media, launched a negative media blitz against us in a bid to suppress our growth. The systematic effort to undermine PIB came after I refused to cede power to Muhammad Rashid.[2]

Over the course of fifteen meetings, I became better acquainted with Arafat and grew increasingly concerned with his leadership style. Arafat and top PA officials did not respect the rule of law; many were corrupt. Arafat believed neither in separation of powers nor in checks and balances. His animosity toward accountability thwarted efforts to establish a responsible leadership. By 1996, Palestinians in the PA were saying they had traded one occupation for two, the one by Israel and the one by Arafat and his cronies.

Rather than use donor funds for their intended purposes, Arafat regularly diverted money to his own accounts. It is amazing that some U.S. officials still see the Palestinian Authority as a partner even after U.S. congressional records revealed authenticated PLO papers signed by Arafat in which he instructed his staff to divert donors' money to projects benefiting himself, his family, and his associates.[3]

How did Arafat's inner circle benefit? In 1994, he instructed the Palestinian Authority official in charge of finances, Muhammad Nashashibi, to fund secretly—to the tune of $50,000 per month—a Jerusalem publicity center for Raymonda Tawil, Arafat's mother-in-law, and Ibrahim Qar'in, an associate of Arafat's family.[4] He also ordered the investment in the computer companies of 'Ali and Mazzan Sha'ath, sons of Nabil Sha'ath, the PA's key negotiator in talks with Israel. Amin Haddad, Arafat's designated governor of the Palestine Monetary Authority, established several import-export companies acting as the front man for Arafat. The Palestinian Economic Council for Development and Reconstruction financed these activities.[5] Thus, an organization meant to channel funds from donor countries like France and Germany became a mechanism by which to enrich Arafat.

Arafat's men flagrantly displayed corruption. Arriving penniless in Gaza and the West Bank from exile in Tunisia, many PLO members amassed wealth, built villas in Gaza, Ramallah, Amman, and other places, and sent their children to the best schools in the United Kingdom and the United States. Hisham Makki, former head of the Palestine Broadcasting Services, assassinated in January 2001, earned a monthly salary of $1,500 but became a millionaire within a few years. Immediately after his assassination, Arafat froze Makki's personal bank accounts, estimated at $17 million. Makki was alleged to have taken bribes and sold government-owned equipment. However, it was rumored that he had a dispute with another PA official over the sharing of profits gained on illegal business transactions. His assailants, believed to be members of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, a shady group affiliated with Fatah, have never been caught.[6]

Palestinians complained. The corruption of Arafat and the Palestinian Authority were blatant, but it appeared as if their status quo policies caused Israel and the United States to turn a blind eye. Diplomats downplayed flagrant corruption. In August 2001, Israel seized close to a half million documents from Palestinian offices in Jerusalem and elsewhere. Subsequent State Department reports on Palestinian governance and terrorism made little use or even mention of these documents.[7] European and U.S. policymakers assumed Arafat's critics to be against the Oslo accord. That may have been the case with members of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad, but it was not the case among more liberal-minded Palestinians and investors like me.

Arafat's corruption reached its peak in 1999 via the monster of "twelve security forces that nobody could control,"[8] in addition to the disorganized Tanzim (Fatah's militia). He played these services off each other, never allowing a subordinate to gain power. Between 1995 and 2000, Arafat's thugs beat up at least eleven elected members of the 88-member Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC) because they voiced views in private and in public that were opposed to Arafat's on how the PA is run. The victims included PLC Human Rights Committee head Qaddoura Fares, Azmi ash-Shoaibi, Abdul Jawad Saleh, Hatem Abdul Kader, among others. Arafat wanted to terrorize and silence his critics. Indeed, one of his favorite slogans was Dimuqratiyat al-Banadiq (Democracy of the Guns). Arafat believes true power lies in force, whether directed against Israelis or against his own people.

How popular is Arafat among Palestinians? At times of crisis, television crews show cheering Palestinians demonstrating and greeting their leader outside his Ramallah headquarters. In better days, Palestinian television regularly broadcasts pro-Arafat rallies across the West Bank and Gaza Strip. But rallies aren't always what they seem. PA funds are used to buy loyalty and drum up support.[9] The PA hires crowds, stages promotional media campaigns, and distributes Arafat's pictures in the streets and alleys of the Palestinian territories. Rather than build a viable state, Arafat sought only to amass wealth and power. I myself heard his entourage and close associates refer to him as al-Arrab, meaning "the Godfather."

At the end of 1997, when the PA Auditor's Office released its end of the year financial report, $326 million—43 percent of the annual budget—was "missing."[10] Only 57 percent of the budget was accounted for, spent on security forces (35 percent), office of the president (12.5 percent), and public allocation (9.5 percent). A special committee appointed by the PLC conducted an investigation and released a report accusing the PA of financial mismanagement. The findings of this panel exposed many official misgivings and abuses such as the use of government money for personal purposes by ministers Nabil Sha'ath, Talal Sidr, and Yasir Abd Rabboh; excessive expenditure on rent, salaries, and cost of travel in various ministries; receipt of bribes by ministry officials in the Ministry of Civil Affairs; illegal and unreported collection of taxes by the Ministry of Postal Services; granting illegal customs exemptions on cars, furniture, and material donations entering the PA, etc. It concluded that anyone involved in corruption should be taken to court, regardless of his position as minister, undersecretary, or director-general. The report demanded the ouster of at least two ministers: civil affairs minister Jamil at-Tarifi, and planning and international cooperation minister Nabil Sha'ath.[11]

The PLC voted 51-1 in favor of dissolving Arafat's appointed 18-member limited self-rule cabinet. Sixteen ministers gave letters to Arafat signaling readiness to resign if asked. But Arafat confirmed the corrupt ministers in their positions rather than firing them. Additionally, PLC member Haider Abdel Shafi resigned due to "frustration with the performance of the PLC and with the executive's total lack of concern for its recommendations," and added, "The PLC is a marginal body and not a true parliament."[12]

Even as the PLC committee was conducting its investigation, Arafat appointed Tayeb Abd al-Rahim, general secretary of the Presidential Office, to make a detailed inquiry into acts of corruption. His report remains secret.

In practice the reports were meaningless. Since Arafat does not honor rule of law, decisions by auditors or the Palestinian Legislative Council fall by the wayside. Corruption continues. More than six years after the report's issuance, Tarifi remains in the cabinet. Rather than face charges, Sha'ath has won promotion.

In another case, Salam Fayyad, the official in charge of finance, again said in August 2003 that there were many "irregularities" in the work of the Petroleum Authority, which has been siphoning money to secret bank accounts for years.[13] When Nablus legislator Mu'awyah al-Masri asked for details and figures about the revenues from oil products, Fayyad shocked the lawmakers by declaring, "Unfortunately, the documents related to the revenues from oil products—or how the money was used—can't be found. They have disappeared from the ministry."[14]

The bank accounts of Harbi Sarsour, head of the Petroleum Authority, were frozen by the PA pending investigation into the scandal. But an initial investigation by Fayyad's office and the PLC showed that much of the oil profits had been deposited into a bank account under Arafat's name.[15]

For sheer scale, few allegations match up to a deal allegedly struck between Muhammad Rashid, one of Arafat's economic advisors, and the late Yossi Ginosar, a former Israeli security officer. Ginosar's company, ARC, helped open Swiss bank accounts and deposit funds into them derived from both PA-financed companies and Israeli tax rebates to the Palestinian Authority.[16] Over a period of five years, approximately US$900 million was diverted to these accounts.[17]

In early 2002, the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research conducted a poll in which they surveyed 1,320 Palestinians. Eighty-five percent believed that there was corruption in PA institutions; only 16 percent gave a positive evaluation to democracy under the Palestinian Authority. Eighty-four percent expressed support for fundamental reforms in the PA.[18]

Arafat Robs the Palestine International Bank
On November 28, 1999, I became a victim of Arafat's abuse of power and flagrant disregard for the law. That's when, in direct breach of the law, Arafat issued a decree dissolving the Palestine International Bank's board of directors. The state-controlled Palestine Monetary Authority took over the bank, and with Arafat's blessing and written approval,[19] formed a new supervisory board of directors, including at least one convicted and Interpol-wanted felon. The unlawful takeover was a confiscation of my own, my shareholders', and my clients' private assets for Arafat's personal use. At the date of seizure, PIB total assets amounted to $105 million. Since the takeover, they have neither called for a shareholders' meeting nor disclosed the bank's balance sheet.

CONTINUED.......

AboveAlpha

 

After Arafat died we calculated Arafat had stolen between $21 Billon to $75 Billion with the probability making the exact number around $57 Billion.

Now contrary to popular belief......which real problems happen between Palestinians and when real problems happen between Israeli's.....guess who get's to go over there to play BABY SITTER!!???

Me and my Team.

I have posted about this many times and THE ONLY REASON I GO IS BECAUSE I OWED A DEAR FRIEND BIG TIME AND THE LAST TIME I WENT MADE US EVEN!!!

No matter what ANYONE TELLS YOU....whether it is the IDF.....Hezbolla....Hamas....Fatah....Islamic Jihad....etc....THERE IS ONE RULE ALL SIDES SWEAR BY AND MAKE SURE NEVER HAPPENS!!!

That RULE is......UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DOES ANYONE FROM ANY GROUP ON ANY SIDE ATTEMT TO SHOOT AT OR WORSE KILL ANY AMERICAN'S!!!!!

The REASON for this RULE....is because the United States gives BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF MONETARY AID, MILITARY AID, INFRUSTRUCTURE AID....and as fas as the Palestinian side or their supporters understand....it is the UNITED STATES THAT PREVENTS THE IDF FROM JUST ROLLING INTO GAZA AND PALESTINE AND WIPING EVERYONE OUT!!!

As well the Israeli's understand that they get more than just the $20 Billion in yearly AID as Billions more come in from PRIVATE AMERICAN'S just like BILLIONS COME INTO PALESTINE FROM PRIVATE AMERICAN'S!!!

So...RULE #1. DO NOT SHOOT AT AND MAKE CERTAIN NO ONE ELSE SHOOTS AT AND ABOVE ALL.....MAKE SURE NO ONE KILLS AN AMERICAN!!!!

Hmas and Hezbollah HAVE ORDERS TO KILL THEIR OWN MEMBERS WHO ATTEMPT TO SHOOT AT OR ATTEMPT TO KILL ANY AMERICAN'S!!!

The ONLY one's we have to worry about is members of the Iranian Qud''s Force who are FANATICS loyal only to Iran's old Religious Guard and they are NOT loyal to the Iranian President or Military except members of specific Iranain Republican Guard Divisions.

About a Year ago to PROVE A POINT....I put ona Uniform....one I would not ordinarily wear as it had an American Flag on the top right shoulder and turned around as all American Troops Uniforms have American Flags on the tops of the right sleave turned backwards as to make it seem as our Forces ARE ALWAYS MOVING FORWARD!!!

Anyways I don't wear uniforms other than body armor and camo but I put this guys uniform on and unlke a BATTLE UNIFORM which would have the American Flag if it was Jungle or Forest Terrain.....that American Flag would have it's stars and stripes in tones of Greens and Tans.

This Uniform was a DRESS UNIFORM with FRIT SALAD ALL OVER THE PLACE and a BRIGHT RED, WHITE AND BLUE AMERICAN FLAG....and believe me there is NO WAY I could have been mistaken as to who and what I was.

Over the years I have been told never to walk down what the IDF Considers to be....THE MOST DANGEROUS ROAD IN THE PALESTINIAN CONTROLLED AREA!!

I walked down this road...by myself....with my Team Members FREAKING OUT!!!

I started walking toward a building that we KNEW was a storage depot for wepons and Hamas uses this system of KIDS who are their eyes and ears and the closer I got to the building and I was walking RIGHT DOWN THE CENTER OF THIS ROAD.....the more men started coming out and I could see the glint of sunlight off what I KNEW were rifle scopes.

NO ONE SHOT AT ME.....NO ONE THREATENED ME!!!

I walked past that building as about 30 men watched me with their mouths wide open.

I walked down that road about 1000 meters more and turned around and walked back.

A kid on a patchwork BMX bike drove up to me and in English said..."You American?'

I said..."Yes."

He said..."You crazy!"

I said..."Why do you think that? Do you think anyone is going to shoot at me?"

The kid said....NO!!! NO ONE WILL SHOOT!!! HONEST!!!

Then he peddled away and toward the 30 or so men and talked to them and peddled back and said..."They said they want you to know we don't shoot Americans!!!"

I told him I knew...and I would not be coming back.

AboveAlpha

 

Where is the Gold.
Where is the American Gold and why won't they count it?
Why won't they return Gold that is agreed upon, owned by another nation?

No paragraphs please.
Just a few words.
Avoid obfuscation and answer the questions. Or not.


Moi

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Exactly what Gold is that you are refering to?

AboveAlpha

 

There are no Russian military troops in Ukraine. Everyone knows that. The whole global economy is in the pooper. Look at the US, wages have decreased, over 50% of households rec eive some sort of supplemental check from the gov., the markets are held up by cheap money (0% interest rates) and allows big corps to borrow money to buy up their own stock to keep their stocks unrealistically over priced, global sovereign debt is 260 TRILLION over global GDP, oil prices have crashed because no one is producing anything and the market is flooded. Every economic indicator is screaming "depression" but the sheeple just keep grazing. O baaaaaaaaaa ma"

 

Everyone knows they are. Captured with their Russian passports.

 

You do know that military personal dont carry passports right? It discourages going AWOL and is the reason all military is given military ID and dog tags.

"President Poroshenko’s PR advisers are helping him turn speeches into a kind of performance art. Sadly for the Ukrainian leader, they are more Laurel and Hardy than Laurence Olivier.

READ MORE: Moscow demands copies of ‘Russian soldiers IDs shown in Munich

On Saturday, Poroshenko was again engaged in physical theatre, this time in Munich. Holding up Russian passports, he alleged that they belonged to Russian soldiers who had been found on Ukrainian soil. Citing “mountains of (Russian) lies and propaganda,” the Ukrainian President stood on a German stage and, well, lied.

Speaking of ‘propaganda,’ Yahoo news called the Russian (civilian) passports – which all Russians traveling abroad carry – 'military ID's' which is certainly a new one. "

 

- lets start with -
Germany - recently recieved back 85 tons of its Gold
from the US FED – A small potion of what is owned them –

So what happened to their other 1,800 tons ?

Apparenty there was a Bank Robbery
& the silly Krauts forgot to insure their deposit
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The Mystery About Germany´s Gold in The US Has Been Solved
http://nsnbc.me/2013/07/31/mystery-about-germany´s-gold-in-the-us-solved/

From the Article:
“Nobody wants to admit it openly. The German Gold Reserves in the United States are gone,
used for financing the United States war chest and bet for “Global Full Spectrum Dominance”.
So why is even the German Federal Bank trying to avoid further speculation by referring to a
non-existent “full transparency” ? The answer is quite simple. Nobody wants the current back-
wardation of the gold market to turn into a permanent backwardation of the gold market. ….”
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Perhaps - if they ever become clean on Germany's Gold
they could explain the disappearance of the Ukraine's Gold

 

The Treasury audited the Feds gold a couple years ago but its a secret. Shhhhhhh. Isnt that a bit like asking Biden to inventory the WH liquor cabinet?

 

Yep and probably only 40 tons were Tungsten filled.
"Amid international accusations that U.S. officials in the Clinton administration replaced gold in Fort Knox with phony, mostly tungsten bars that were later shipped to China and other places yet unknown, a German refinery has now discovered that it has received a bogus “gold” bar as well.

The video proof was shown on the German television station ProSieben that ran the news story covering W.C. Heraeus in Hanau, Germany, the world’s largest privately owned refinery.

In the story, Wilfried Horner, head of the gold foundry, shows a 500-gram bar (16.0755 troy ounces) received from an unidentified bank. The bar had the right physical dimensions to be an authentic gold bar, but one of the Heraeus employees suspected something.

After the bar was cut in half, the TV audience could plainly see that the dark insides were tungsten, with only a coating of gold on the outside.

While the story never aired on American TV, it is available on the Internet.

Last fall, Rob Kirby of Kirby Analytics in Toronto reported that China’s central bank had discovered nearly 6,000 400-ounce gold-plated tungsten bars among those it had recently received from bonded warehouses.

It was later learned that at least four counterfeit bars at other locations were found and that all had come from sources within the United States, including Fort Knox, according to the Chinese investigators.

As suspicions grow about counterfeit bars among those held in bonded warehouses for delivery against either COMEX or London Bullion Market Association contracts or shares of exchange-traded funds, investors could panic. It is believed this could be the reason for the blackout on news coverage in the United States on this story except for AFP."

 

Thats why they make them former military personnel. No insignias, no flags, but more cutting edge Russian military weapons in Eastern Ukraine. The Ukranian military doesnt stand a chance.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f7a_1424642083

 

So why do you keep propagandizing that there are Russia military troops in Ukraine? Thank you for manning up and admitting your lie though.

 

Russia isnt even in the top 40 countries of debt to GDP.

 

& you best Thank yer Yahweh for that fact - "dixie "

If the Ukraine ever started to get the better of the situation in Eastern Provinces
and then op'd for NATO membership, both you & your kids would soon become
............................Irradiated Corpses glowing in the dark of some smoking Ruin

Ever hear of the better "Dead than Red" mentality ?
Well a good portion of Russia feels the same way
[color=3ffffff].....[/color] about becoming Slaves to American Dictate

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"t seems to me that Russia (with China and others) is very busy constructing an alternate financial network that will allow for international money transfers and other necessities for conducting normal trade operations, outside of systems like the SWIFT code, which the US has been using as a knout against our imagined enemies. The upshot will leave America high and dry in a lot of what remains of international trade, especially in oil.

Meanwhile we continue to tell ourselves the false and idiotic story of “energy independence,” based on the shale oil Ponzi scheme that blew up last fall — the consequences of which won’t really be felt for about another eight months, when all those wells drilled and fracked in 2013-14, start to fall off their production cliff, and the replacement wells will not have been drilled. We’re still importing almost 8 million barrels of oil a day, contrary to all the fairy tales we tell ourselves. What happens when the sellers decide they won’t take US dollars for it? Hmmmm..."

 

Youve certainly convinced yourself Putin is bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy. And again, Ukraine was simply expanding trade relations with Europe, when Putin blew a fuse. Russia and the Soviet Union traded with Cuba for decades. If Russia and their government werent so freakin insecure, they could see that their neighbors trading with other nations poss no threat to them.

 

No less or no more "bat(*)(*)(*)(*) crazy." than you American's
.............................. were during the Cuban missile crisis - Fool

Your sense of Liberty & what that word means seems to have become so eroded
......... as you no longer seem to realize, that some people would rather fight to the
...................................................... Death than to Live with a Boot on their Neck

Perhaps that sort of Cowardice comes from eating a steady diet of
the sort US Propaganda you push about so freely here on the PF ?


You should be reminded that - that sort of spinelessness is not a good survival technique
to use a word coined by the Bush - It makes you susceptible to 'Misunderestimating' your adversary
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EXACTLY all Gold American accounts claim to hold.
Simple.

 

By "blew a fuse" do you mean "out smarted washington when their plan to "broker a transition of government" so they could push Russia into looking like the aggressor when they did what they had to do to keep the Sevastopol port?"
I think he has been very patient considering ethnic Russians being killed by snipers in Kiev, the Odessa massacre, the discovery of mass graves in E. Ukraine - and all this on top of the MH17 crash. Putin warned them 10 years ago not to bring NATO to Russia's door step. What would you think if China took Mexico City by empowering drug cartels so they could put Ballistic missiles in Tijuana?

 

Let's see now what the EU was offering in the trade deal. An IMF loan that would have lowered the pensions forty percent, medical care seventy percent and would have doubled the price of gas. Also a loss of hundreds of billions of dollars in trade deals that Russia had with the Dombas industries...an area that supported the Western part of Ukraine. Yanukovich asked the EU if they would cover the loses, and they said no. Putin asked if he could discuss it with them and again they said no.

No bank or nation would loan Yanukovich the fifteen billion he needed to keep from defaulting...even China. As a last resort he went to Putin and he said he would give it to him from the Russian pension fund...to the chagrin of the Russian people. He gave him three billion immediately and lowered the price of gas. After the anti Russian ouster of Yanukovich, the junta wanted to keep the lower price of gas Russia promised to Yanukovich, and the three billion is now due...but Ukraine isn't even considering it.

 

Uhhh! Hate to inform you but Russian troops do not carry passports. When Moscow asked to see them since they had been falsified, Poroshenko refused to hand them over.

 

Oh you mean the invisible highly secret super stealth trackless tanks? Well of course Ukraine doesn't stand a chance, I mean they can't be seen duh!

 

They're cloaked.....Yea, thats it cloaked.