Lesbian teacher: How I convince kids to accept gay marriage, starting at 4-years-oldl

Christianity isn't the only religion that is against Same Sex relationships/Marriages. Christianity is the most Vocal right now in the US, but it is far from the only one.

For that age, then yes most definitely. Some kids have 2 mommies or 2 daddies. That kinda stuff.

I was raised by a heterosexual couple, and I have no problem with teaching my kids that there is more then one relationship type, and that most are as normal as heterosexuality. Love and Consent are the only two factors that matter IMO.

 

Ah the monogamy of gay marriage. Hope they at least wait till 1st grade to teach them what an open relationship means.

Strong, who is in an open relationship with another woman

 

Understanding individual rights and freedoms that are integral to the founding of this nation is important to maintaining any semblance of democratic validity.

Philosophy (logic, logical fallacy, and what a valid argument consists off/ critical thinking) is also important.

 

Yes ... that is what I meant however in a broader sense than just in relation to gays.

 

Doesn't promote homosexuality to the same degree if they give equal rights and let just any two consenting adults to marry.

 

Since gay marriage didn't exist until 224 years AFTER the founding of this nation, seems absurd to argue that it is integral to that founding.

 

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Parents shouldn't be simply informed. They should be guiding the curriculum.

Little children should not be exposed to this type of indoctrination. Period.

 

This sounds about right.

All youth must accept the new world social order. Those who fail to comply and are suspected of harboring homophobia must undergo re-education.

This is the only way to achieve Social Justice, which is the prime directive of the modern age. All who disagree are to be purged.

 

"When asked by one of the workshop attendees if she first asks parents’ permission before bringing homosexual issues up in class, Gunn responded that she does not, but she makes sure to teach her students about numerous social justice issues so that no parent can accuse her of focusing on homosexuality, which she said she likes to “hide” in her lessons.

“I find if you teach all the ‘isms,’ it kind of backs you,” she said. “If I teach all the isms, and sometimes I can hide it a little bit in the math, and what I mean is I can say, ‘I’m just teaching your kid about division. I’m so sorry that you, you know, feel that way,” she said, causing the room of educators to break into laughter."

Does lying to parents meet with your approval?

 

Because it's the parents job to raise their children, not the governments. When they become adults they can make their own decisions whether to keep it or not.

 

How can a child make an informed, subjective judgement after years of brainwashing by his parents-I'm talking specifically about religion. 'Believe in this because I say so'? How is that ever right?

 

you mean like your daughter, and your religion bashing while you were raising her?

 

I did nothing of the sort. Unlike my parents religion was seldom brought up in conversation and she was left to form her own opinions. It's called showing 'respect' for someone's intellect and decision-forming ability. You may have heard of these concepts.

 

Things like this: the maths books say "John and Sally give their kids 4 sweets each..." and they change it to "Sally and Emma give their kids 4 sweets each...". Yeah, that's a real world scenario. It's like the pictures in the textbooks these days have all sorts of ethnic children. "Ichbal buys 6 mouse traps, but Wan-Lee buys 7". That's exactly the same thing. It inclusive. In my day, you were lucky not to have a racial slur every second page.

Now young kids don't often have different classes - they don't go from maths to reading to geography... so being with one teacher all day, and mixing up what they are talking about seems reasonable.. but it might be quite confusing talking about triangles AND social issues in the same paragraph. Regardless of them talking about gay issues, I think there needs to be a clear line between lesson types.

Anyway, if kids are taught that it's fine that there are same-sex relationships out there, then why is this a bad thing? It IS fine. It's allowed. It's legal. It's normal to some. Maths is not the place to directly talk about, but in my above examples that is not what is happening.

Maybe I misunderstood the situation.

 

That is the purpose of schools. Consider the definition of "teach": acting upon someone to cause them to know something.

Teaching doesn't require a subjects permission, cooperation, or even knowledge. It's an inherently violent act, but necessary for most societies. We need to teach pets not to pee in the house, rose bushes where to grow, and even young children about many things including the dangers and responsibilities of living in this society. That necessity is the reason most schools exist and laws require young children to be taught.

And since our law requires citizens to accept folks who happen to be black, or Jewish, or gay as equal citizens I'm not sure why anyone would object to that lesson being included in a schools curriculum. I wouldn't even be surprised if that topics inclusion is federally mandated.

This woman isn't offering a sex ed class to 4 year olds, she's including social responsibility in her lessons. Lessons that at 10am may include history, at 11am may include spelling, at 1pm may include government, at 2pm may include math ... and no doubt all of which involve overlap.




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So maybe another teacher can teach the students that homosexuality is nasty and unnatural then right?

In what universe should homoseuxality be taught in a positive light?

It appears you're ok with it just because its a progressive issue.

In short you want children brainwashed with your adult politics because you believe their right hence kids should be spoon-fed that bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Sorry its a math teachers responsiblity to teach math not progressive social issues.

 

I did not argue that gay marriage was integral to the founders. Why are you creating straw men.

You are welcome to your opinion that individual rights and freedoms were not important to the founders.

I just do not share it.

 

Our laws say homosexuals, blacks, and Jews are equal citizens and should not be singled out. Teaching his is consistent with our laws and the curriculum we've established for our schools. Teaching students that gays or blacks or Jews are nasty isn't and someone teaching that would have a conflict with both our laws and most school policies.

And no, I don't support equal rights because it's a progressive position. I happen to think equal treatment under the law is more often supported by conservative candidates. In general.

You want to end public schools? Make your argument and accept the responsibility for educating your own kids. I may not have a problem with it, as long you can and will do the necessary job.

Four year olds don't have math teachers. They have teachers who teach them many subject, math included. Those teachers correct students spelling mistakes when grading history reports, they remind them of math lessons they can't keep score in PE, and likewise other lessons get involved in a math example.



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Our laws don't say indiviudals need to agree or even like homosexuals, blacks or anyone.

Gays don't have a RIGHT to be liked or supported - progressives don't understand that because they can't wrap their heads around freedom.

 

Same way they do after years of indoctrination by public schools and institutions of higher education.

 

Unfortunately these courts have created a new right of homosexuals to receive RESPECT from the population, so they can obtain some "dignity" for themselves. From I re Marriage in California.

An absurd notion that government cant promote mothers and fathers joining together to provide and care for their own children together, because it offends the delicate sensibilities of the gays. That government and the people must give to homosexual couples who perpetuate 60% of the new HIV cases in the US, the same level of respect and dignity that we give to heterosexual couples who perpetuate the human species.
Just naked government indoctrination of the masses.

 

Because progressives run the California state government and progressives are vile authoritarian fascists.

See it's not about equality for the minority it's about superiority for the minority...

Progressives subscribe to the same fascism Nazi's subscibed to. Just change the races around.

 

What do you think they do when they see little Becky with two dads? Or are you wanting to ban same-sex parents from even being seen from other children?

 

The school doesn't need to do anything.

I don't have to preach "2 dads is ok" if a kindergardener in my class comes in and otehr students are curious..... What I am compelled to do is keep a safe environment and prevent the rest of the class from making fun. I can do that without saying "gay is ok" or by "sneaking it into lessons about math"

 

my 2nd grader brings home stories to read... and he's a pretty good reader, but the people in the story are named stuff like Emiliana and Jaquez. Why not just Steve and Joe..... why do you insist on putting the most difficult names in reading passages where the intended audience are very young readers? We tell my son... "if you ever see a person's name that you can't read, just replace it with Steve or Jill. As long as you keep it the same for the entire story, you'll be fine."

I have no issues telling my son "if your pasasge says 'Bill and Steve took their sons....." with "bill and Jill....."