Supreme Court rules in favor of gay marriage nationwide<<MOD WARNING>>

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  1. HB Surfer

    HB Surfer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Again... this was an attack on religion.

    Liberals really are ignorant to what this is really all about and what a common sense ruling would have been. Instead, they revel in what is ultimately going to be an attack on religion which will alienate millions. Either that, or they knew this was really an attack on religion and saw it as a great way to attack others' faith, which is evil.

    Marriage licenses were created to stop black and whites from marrying. That is the history of it. We allowed the government into our relationships where they should not have been. We have expanded that mistake in a really stupid way today.

    There should be no state sanctioned marriages. This goes for heteros as well. Marriage should be granted by churches, synagogues, mosques, or any organization that the couple wishing to get married finds to be the right match for them... this includes homosexuals.

    If we want the government to allow us to contract as a couple (Civil Union), then fine. This goes for heteros and homos and should be 100% equal.

    Under the solution I have just laid out everyone is 100% equal. We have removed the government from marriage. We have protected all religions. All the smart people knew of the solution I just laid out, but there is an agenda by the leftists to now walk into Churches, Synagogues, Mosques and demand to be married. When they are not, the attack on the religions begin and that is the real goal of those pulling the strings. Those that support "gay marriage" are just pawns so that statists/Centralize Government types can attack churches. That's all this is. There is no great victory for gay rights today, there is a defeat for freedom of religion. I can't believe how many people were duped and never figured this out. We truly are a nation of ignorant people.
     
  2. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would we want to? What pro is there to embracing a dead ender like Homosexuality?

    No offense taken, as I dont believe you are correct. The Decision alone should have corrected that for you. For what you said to be true...we could not have had a 5-4 decision. I think theres far more of "me" than you would like to believe, or that the fudged polls would show.

    Anyway, enjoy the decision.
     
  3. REPUBLICRAT

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    I don't understand. You actually want the states to be able to deny Americans equal rights? Why? Why do you not want all Americans to have equal rights?
     
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    RATS.. hate that happens!

    :roflol:
     
  5. Natty Bumpo

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    If you have been enslaved, you have legal recourse.

    If that attitude had prevailed in the South in 1861, how soon do you suppose the minds of those enriched by forcing others into bondage would have changed?

    I'm an enthusiastic capitalist, self-employed for years, but you apparently feel the need to spout ad hominems and strike out irrationally.
     
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    Not only that many states have voted against it.
     
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    Bo_4 Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Not only that, but you'd better hide the kids to protect them from "recruitment"!! :)
     
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    Here's a better solution. You don't want to be in the same institution as gays?

    Then just go to your church and get married.

    No ones stopping you. You don't have to have a state recognized marriage. No ones stopping you from having your marriage recognized by your faith and your friends and family. Why should it matter?

    Isn't that the line that was fed to gays and lesbians for decades?
     
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    Yes people. Stopping state governments from discriminating against people because they're gay is an attack on religion. lol How ridiculous.
     
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    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...ex_marriage_in_54_decision.html#ixzz3eBPJHADV
     
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    sadly some fight equality every step of the way

    equal rights always wins in the end in America, just sometimes it takes time
     
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    Federalism. States have their laws and license marriages. Some states passed laws specifying one man one woman (and this would be after the SCOTUS ruled on a case for gay marriage in the 70's in literally 1 sentence saying "this does not present a substantial federal question") recently. This means they refused to recognize marriages performed in states where gay marriage is legal AND refused to license same sex in their states. Under the equal protection clause of the constitution states are required to recognize things like marriages or other contracts that come from other states. They did not do so. For years. This ruling does not require any state to license gay marriages in their state. They simply must recognize legal marriages from other states, all legal marriages. Get married in a state where gay marriage is legal and you are now married in all 50 states. Period.
     
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    Enjoy your socialist state run America. Remember to bow down to your king.

    - - - Updated - - -

    You know exactly what I am referring to.
     
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    But you still get to keep those federal marriage benefits and deny those to others. You plan is 110% jaded. It is not an attack on religion either! MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    In 2008, Obama was for marriage between one man and one woman.

    So, yes the ballot box is reality.
     
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    No, they were examples of discimination. The REAL kind, not the wishful thinking crap you Gays try to say youve been suffering. Thats why it doesnt apply.

    Already told you above. That should answer all of these non applicable strawmen.

    Which "majority" exaqctly? Were the people given the chance to vote? Or are you tlaking about an extra robe being the Majority?

    You statement validates my statements prior, as you now try to claim homosexuality as "Normal". Validation was what it was always about...not acceptance. As said by me for years.

    Never claimed they were, however noones pushing to be able to marry on the platform of liking gum.

    There sure are, and we carefully pick and choose what we rubber stamp as acceptable and normal.



    The funniest part of this entire thread is that even though you guys got your decision...you are still here bantering back and forth with guys like me. As I have said all along, your real case (behind the buzzwords of equality and the other BS), was hoping for a full validation. You'd think if all you were after was the right to Marry...you wouldnt even care what people like me think. You'd be out celbrating.

    But here you are, because as I have always called (correctly) , this was about Validation....which isnt coming form the people just because an extra robe says you can get married. Normal people know that 2 guys smoking swords doesnt add up. And a Marriage decision isnt going to change that, sorry. It will allow you to play house like everyone else legally...but it's not likely to change opinion.
     
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    If so, put it to a vote of We the People. Oh yea, it fails every time.
     
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    You can do what you want.
     
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    My objects have nothing to do with same sex marriage and everything to do with the court forcing it on the states. If it's so popular it shouldn't be a problem getting it legalized state by state instead of forced by the federal government. Just one step closer to the federal government nullifying the need for local governments.
     
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    It's a good way for Republicans to look at it regardless of whether they oppose the ruling or support it (as I do).

    This hasn't been a winning issue for Republicans, in my estimation, and it's been a source of aggravation for the Republicans who want the party to focus on the economy, healthcare, national security, etc. I know Bo and other progs like to think every RWer is a social conservative, but that's not the case.
     
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    The SCOTUS interprets the Constitution and the Constitution guarantees equal rights for all. No one is forcing religious institutions to perform ceremonies so there is no infringement on religious rights and since we are not a Theocracy...liberty, justice and the pursuit of happiness for all was well served today. If not the federal government, who is supposed to uphold equal rights...the religious groups?
     
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    You think the 2016 Republican Nominees are going to run on supporting a Federal Marriage Amendment to the Constitution???
     
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    Yes, I do and I addressed it.
     
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    Wait you weren't doing that before?

    Why weren't you? Did you spend to much time fighting gay marriage?
     
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