OK....your DEAD....now what?

There's no evidence to suggest that your post-life experience will be any different to what went before it.

Why wouldn't pre-life be the same?

 

Yea that would pretty cool.

 

Any who may have survived since the extinction of their society are totally unlike those ancients who disappeared.
Thy are like the Christian Italians in that sense, no longer Roman in their minds at all.

 

You are right.
You agree with the ancient Jews who wrote this same idea in Hebrew 200 years before Jesus had appeared:

Revelation 21:4-5
And God, (blessing them with Total Phylogenetic Consciousness: [Carl Jung]), shall wipe away, (in their awakened Unconscious Mind: [Freudian Hypothesis]), all tears from their eyes, (for life is a genetically rememberable continuum from one generation to the next living generation); and (in genetic memories of prior existences held in our Unconscious Mind) there shall be no more death... (for we shall not all "sleep:" [1Co15:51], but total phylogenetic Consciousness will have evolved), ... neither sorrow... (for we, individually, are part of a living continuum of our own past(s), flowers upon our genetic vine),... nor crying,... (for we are happy in these revelations of reconstitution from our human gene pool), neither shall there be any more pain... (as is circumvented by hypnosis even today): for the former things (in Modern Homo sapiens paradigm of the life experience) are passed away.
And He, (the ancient, phylogenetic, Collective Unconscious Mind), that sat upon the throne (within the kingdom of the evolving Homoiousian sapiens' brain: [Luke 17:21]) said, Behold, (in this way, through evolution: [Gen 9:11-18]), I make all things (in human experience) new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true, (rational, and scientifically feasible), and (worthy of) faithful (belief).

 

Where are all the pagan worshippers of mythological gods that reigned before the 1000 years of Christianity during the Monastic Age???

 

That is the MAIN problem which the Bible wants to change, that selfishness of "I care more abot my own life" than the survival of humanity over the long range.

Sexual promiscuity demands very expensive Welfare for the single mothers who birth fatherless kids.
The kids suffer enormous Child Abuse.
Then they grow into the violent criminal element inside our cities.
Their mother make teachers stop being authoritative, and now they want the police to stop arresting and fighting their kids in the cities.

Revolution is immanent, and the patriarchies of Islam and N Korea and China are sharpening their swords too.

 

I would say that is different words, but basically the same that was being taught 500 years before Christ and 300 years before your ancient Jews. Buddhism has its roots in Hinduism which has been around since at least 1750 BC or BCE depending on which one you use. There has been rock paintings of Hinduism as far back as 30,000 years ago. samsara, Kharma, the Dharma applies or is in both Hinduism and Buddhism.

Very interesting that the Ancient Jews would also believe or acknowledge a lot of the same things these two eastern religions do.

 

I was born in 1979. Here is a photo from 1978 of The Boss in action.



What this proves is that existence was happening before I existed - and it will continue after I am gone. Life after death will be like your life was before you were born - NOTHING. You stop existing. Get over it.

 

It would be cool wouldn't it???

But....I am not holding my breath! LOL!!

AboveAlpha

 

Like I have posted when I was with a crew remodeling my very large Western Massachusetts New England Home we were expanding a downstairs bathroom and tore down a wall that was connected to what was known as a COLD STORAGE ROOM.

These rooms were used way back in the day from storing everything from cabbage and potatos and apples during the long New England Winters as well they didn't have FUNERAL HOMES back then so if someone in the family died they would store the dead body in these rooms.

We ripped down the walls connecting to the downstairs bathroom and things started acting funny right off....Cordless Drills and Saw Batteries were drained in seconds....if we were working at night lights would flicker and I had already run new electric lines into that smaller bathroom so it wasn't any connection issues and we checked that.

Then one evening I am with 3 crew members and we hear what sounds like a females voice and then we see her!!

She was in the kitchen looking back at us wearing a 1850's style dress and her hair was pinned up into a bun.

All 4 of us saw her and she looked right at us although we could only see her from about the knees up....and then she just faded away.

Total length of time was perhaps 6 seconds but we all saw her.

After that there has been a few weird things that have gone on but I don't know if what we saw was just a RECORDING of a person embeded into the material of the house or perhaps the quartz that exists under the building....or if she is aware of us and it certainly looked like she was aware of us!!!

That's the only thing I have ever seen that could be considered Supernatural.

I have experienced other way out of the ordinary things but they all are part of the Universal Reality.

AboveAlpha

 

True....no one remembers anything before they were born.

Could be we are just worm food.

AboveAlpha

 

Okay so you've seen a ghost. Well that may have been spooky but I'm glad you got to experience something supernatural. For all your knowledge there's still a big mysterious world out there.

For all those using lack of a pre-life as evidence for a lack of anything more, I have something to say to you: I remember memories before birth.

It's kind of hard to describe but I'll do my best.

I was something created in some kind of room, When I was finished being formed I exited the room and floated away.

I wasn't a human yet but some form of "being," for lack of a better word. And, there were many similar beings there. But they kept disappearing until only I was left.

Well, I was getting lonely so I decided to find out what this life thing was all about. So, I went into a room and there were only two choices for life available at the time. A boy and a girl. I think I was going to choose to be a girl, but someone whisked that life away from me and I was left with becoming a boy.

This was before I was born. I remember being born. The world was cold and blurry! There was this nurse there with red or brown hair and for some reason she was walking on the ceiling.

 

Why do you tease me with this? Do you want me to go ahead and ask about it?

You know a lot but as for me I'd probably still view things of "Universal Reality" as something magical/supernatural.

Oh, and about that... You know a lot of strange stuff. I probably couldn't handle the same strange realities you do with my mental condition. It would probably make me psych out!

 

What the Jews added was the idea of a God who is Reality, itself.
That god had a son, one called Truth.

When Christ said, "I am the Truth, and the way and the life," he was informing the Jews in 32AD that god is Reality, which unfolds moment by moment.
Truth is our ONLY light into this almighty to whom every species must bow.

 

Freud and Carl Jung disagree with you snap opinion here:

"The Collective Unconscious is a storehouse of all the experiences of humankind transmitted to each individual.
As the repository for all past experiences, it includes even our pre-human animal ancestry.
(Assumably through the genetic processes, though unknown to Freud and Jung at the time.)

It becomes the primary base of a person's pyche, directing and influencing behavior.
It is the deepest and most inaccessible level of the psyche.
Jung believed that a person accumulates and files all of his past experiences, so does humankind, collectively.
Jung was supported by Freud in that Freud predicted our eventual discovery of what he called "Phylogenetic Memory."
Jung said, "the form of the world into which a person is born is already inborn in him, as a virtual image." (Jung, 1953, pg 18.

 

enlightenment is a word used to mean several different words in several different languages of the east. Truth, reality. Enlightenment can be knowing or attaining the truth of reality. Now in Theravada Buddhism, enlightenment usually is translated as Awakening. Once accomplished the cycle of birth, death and rebirth is ended. One lives in serene peace for the rest of his life on this earth and then there is no further living in this world.

Now enlightenment or the awakening mean different things, not a great deal of difference to the different sects of Buddhism. Zen, Theravada, Mahayana, Tibetian and a few others. But in all, once attain there is no being reborn again in this world. I am trying to remember what the Buddha said on his death bed when one of the monks asked him where he will go since he had ended the cycle of birth, death and being reborn.

He responded that he would go to a place where there is form and no form, time and no time, space and no space, conscious and no conscious and some more. There have been those who read his exact wording and thought the Buddha was talking about going to another dimension. Possible? Perhaps. Then that raises the question, what knowledge did the ancients have that modern man has lost or forgotten? I think quite a lot.

 

Out of curousity how do these memories come to you?

AboveAlpha

 

Outside Christianity, individuals will be accountable for both faith and actions. In Islam, simply believing in God doesn't cut it.

 

It is your opinion that we will simply cease to exist after death. You have nothing to back your belief up.

 

Well here is the thing.....every person who has undergone a Polygraph Test and asked if their Memories of a prior to their current life of existance was a Memory that was simply accessed like remembering where you left your car keys.....ALL FAILED THE POLYGRAPH TEST!!!

When a question was asked if the person claiming to have a Memory of a LIFE prior to their current one might be something they themselves or others developed by encouraging that person to seek knowledge of a previous existance.....every single one registered A POSITIVE ANSWER on the Polygraph.

Now these test were done in a manner I personally find to be lacking as a CONTROL GROUP should have been established and other parameters were left out.

Plus I can tell you I can pass a POLYGRAPH TEST and LIE MY A$$ OFF!!!

There are ways to do it.....one of them is to inflict PAIN and the usual manner this is taught is to place a small thin piece of clear GLASS either under a TOE NAIL or under a FINGER NAIL in a way that when a question is being asked your immediately shift your foot so that the piece of glass is striking and cutting the huge number of NERVE ENDINGS under a persons toe nail and you can do the same by pressing your fingers against the chair or another thing using glass under a finger nail.

The PAIN will not allow the machine to read a LIE.

There is another way and this takes a great amount of practice and meditation but believe it or not in that Seinfeld episode when they asked George Castanza how he passed a Lie Detector Test.....George said...."It's not a lie....IF YOU BELIEVE IT!!!"

And he is RIGHT!!

But you have to develop over a period of time a mental picture of what did not happen and ingrain it into your subconscious mind and develop it as a STORY YOU BELIEVE HAPPENED!!!

The third way of passing a Polygraph is to be so physically and mentally trained that you plave yourself in a state of meditation consciously and simply control your heart and lungs and nervous system.....I can do this.

But not everyone can as you have to be STRESS FREE and you can't be a person who's body starts duming ADRENALINE into their veins when questioned.

AboveAlpha

 

It still makes me FREAK OUT as well just thinking about it.

But hey....I agreed to take the JOB.....and I was WARNED IN ADVANCE to do so might change things for me.

BOY!!! DID THEY!!

It is one thing to SUSPECT....it is another thing all together to come face to face with such realities.

I am a very strong, powerful, capable, trained, experienced, well above average intelligence and physically capable upon levels most people could not understand....and it KILLS ME to stay in the kind of shape I am in at my age!!!!

It is an everyday thing from diet to running to weight training to Martial Arts Practive to Boxing to Target Shooting and I also perform MENTAL EXERCISES that allow me to memorise things quickly and easily as I don't have Photographic Memory but I have something close to it.

Plus I have a MASSIVE EGO.....but I am HARDWIRED TO PROTECT PEOPLE!!!

Even all that....when I learned some things it SHOOK ME TO MY VERY CORE!!!

This is not easy for me to admit but I was afraid....and I AM AFRAID OF NO MAN OR EVEN GROUP OF MEN!!!

But this scared the HELL out of me.

AboveAlpha

 

Heaven exists, but not hell. Hell is cast into the lake of fire with all not saved. All that offends God will be cleanly destroyed.

 

I have extensive Life Experience in Nations like those in North Africa where Human Life is cheap and I have seen things no person should ever have to see.

If this is a GOD's PLAN....I want no part of such a GOD as this GOD in my opinion is EVIL!!

AboveAlpha

 

Neither do you. I'm not the one who is believing just to believe. I'm willing to withhold assumptions and going for a base level concept.