Chaplains banned from preaching that homosexuality is a sin

The Christian purge has begun: Chaplains banned from preaching that homosexuality is a sin

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015...-that-homosexuality-is-sin.html?intcmp=hplnws

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It wasn’t so much a choice as it was a demand.

Chaplain David Wells was told he could either sign a state-mandated document promising to never tell inmates that homosexuality is “sinful” or else the Kentucky Department of Juvenile Justice would revoke his credentials........................................

The Kentucky Department of Juvenile Justice revoked his volunteer credentials as an ordained minister – ending 13 years of ministry to underage inmates at the Warren County Regional Juvenile Detention Center.............................................

due to your decision, based on your religious convictions, that you cannot comply with the requirements outlined in DJJ Policy 912, Section IV, Paragraph H, regarding the treatment of LGBTQI youth, I must terminate your involvement as a religious volunteer.”..........................


“They told us we could not preach that homosexuality is a sin – period,” Wells told me. “We would not have even been able to read Bible verses that dealt with LGBT issues.”..................................

They are defining hateful or derogatory as meaning with the Bible says about homosexuality,” he told me...................................

There is no question there is a purging underway,” Staver told me. “The dissenters in the recent Supreme Court decision on gay marriage warned us this would happen.”.......................................

He said the policy “requires affirmation of homosexuality as a precondition for ministers providing spiritual guidance to troubled youth, and singles out a particular theological viewpoint as expressly disfavored by the State of Kentucky.”...........................

When pastors and all Christians…are forced by government agents to renounce sharing the very reality of sin, they are in fact being prohibited from sharing the healing and life-changing potential of redemption.”



For 13 years this Chaplain has been invited to spread the word of God and to take time to sit with troubled youth and counsel them. As a Christian, it is no doubt that this Chaplain has done this with a glad heart as he had the opportunity to help people turn their lives around and become better people. Christians and good conservatives spend a lot of time doing volunteer work like this to help others.

Now, with the current environment of trying to equate a chosen sex life with race, the assault has begun on Christianity and what the Bible says about gay sex. Why must the Chaplain be asked to agree to not discuss that gay sex is a sin when the Bible clearly states so? Why not let prisoners who choose gay sex simply avoid the Chaplain while others who know that gay sex is a sin and wrong, can sit and speak with him? Why must a good man of the cloth be banned because he preaches the Gospel?

What message is desired, that government is your salvation?

 

should they be allowed to teach that its a sin to reject Jesus?

to be a Muslim or a Jew?

 

Religion does not belong in government. Period.

 

The issue is being supported in special access and support by this guy and group.

He is quite welcome to "counsel" with his hate and evil privately and individually.

But he has no right to his previous special access.

 

Keyword: " Inmates".


NO one should be forced fed religious crap....it's cruel and unusual punishment.

 

it's voluntary to sit with him. Why do you wish to deny ALL the youth in this detention center the access to the Chaplain? Is it any surpise to anyone what the Bible says about gay sex? Why is it now taboo to let preachers teach the word of God?

 

I've listened to how some of those radical religionists preach their version of "sin" and it can get pretty darned ugly. From the way the OP reads, what it sound like is you have a whole lot of condemnation and about zip counseling.

 

Gee, I thought I was on ignore..........................

This is about a volunteer clergy who makes himself available to those who wish to speak with him. I'm sure that if a devil worshiper wanted to make him/herself available that they would be allowed as well. The message here is that it's OK if you want to volunteer to bring your religion to those who wish to hear as long as it's not Christianity

 

Clearly the chaplins dont understand, The Left Handed Messiah has Spoken, and his word trumps the word of God. Everytime !!!!

Now bow before your creator, dogs !!!!

 

ugly is in the eye of the beholder. What is going on here is that the state has now deemed that the word of God is unwelcome unless you are willing to preach the state's version, and not that from the Bible.

 

If I'm not mistaken, the Pilgrims left England because they were not allowed to practice their faith. The founding fathers made it clear that one must be free to practice their faith. Now we have a state which feels that Christianity is harmful.

The homosexual activists had best understand that it was God loving people who founded this nation and made possible for them to have the freedom to practice their religion of gay-sex. Homosexuals might be the useful idiots of liberals right now but they can quickly fall from favor and find themselves persecuted right along side the Christians

 

What happened to the separation of church and state? The left wants their cake and eat it too.

 

Considering its now deemed exactly the same thing if your penis happens to find its way into a mans bum or a womens vagina, and with the whole gender equality push, why do we have gender based prisons still?

 

So if a Muslim, Atheist, Scientologist, Wiccan, etc., came in to preach to anyone who wanted to listen you'd be fine with that. Good. How open minded of you.

 

Exactly.

 

Not while the Left Handed Messiah reigns supreme

 

ABSOLUTELY; if they wish to volunteer and there is a person who wants to sit with them, then Godspeed

We have free will and that includes free will to accept God, free will to choose gay or straight sex etc etc

 

Just as Jesus turned water into wine, the Left Handed Messiah turns America into (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

"fundamentally transform America"

there is nothing more fundamental than the Christian faith on which this country was founded

Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of the means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.

Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat, but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged, their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable - and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come!

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, peace, peace - but there is no peace. The war is actually begun. The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!

excerpt from Patrick Henry speech at the 2nd Virginia Convention

 

The only person who wants to fundamentally transform America is someone who hates America. You don't want to transform something you love.

 

Christianity (in any meaningful sense), as far as the left is concerned, cannot be tolerated. To them, in many ways, it represents anti-liberal 'we make our standards on fly" sort of thing. Hating Christianity is fine (required) with them, but they love pandering to people who burn down private property, butt slam each other, lie, who slander others who disagree with them and who make crappy movies. It's astonishing these folks, the ones who are suffering because of these no-values preachers, haven't figured out they're being played by their preachers, but they haven't.

 

1. Just because someone is in prison, that does not mean that they are not religious. Many inmates believe in some "God" and request to speak to a priest of their beliefs.

2. Nobody forces these inmates to speak to this or any other priest.

3. If the inmates do not like what he preaches, they can request another priest.

4. This is not a State vs Church matter as the priest is not on the Government payroll, he is a volunteer. He is there to help mend the souls he feels are broken or those that feel that theirs is broken.

5. It is completely wrong for the prison to dictate what the priest preaches. Should they revoke his permit, he should sue for civil rights violations.

 

you forgot the other option

he can succumb to the state and preach their version of Christianity

 

So you are supportive of a radical Muslim "volunteering" his time to "volunteer" inmates wishing to speak with him and sit down with him discussing that infidels must be killed then correct? I mean this is about freedom of religion after all right? I mean, you aren't just biased towards Christianity and Judaism being taught to inmates right?

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See my above quote, then you are supportive of Radical Muslims volunteering their time to inmates right? I mean the radical muslim wouldn't be forcing the inmates to sit and listen it would all be volunteer.

 

So basically this preacher is pissed that he can't incite prisoners to violence against gay inmates and that he has lost his 2,000 year old
tradition of bashing homosexuals.

It's like the bully kid on the block who tortures the neighbor's dog for years and then goes running home to mommy complaining about the mean old dog when it finally nips back.

Pathetic.