No it's back to biology. Pregnancy is difficult which makes it easy to stop, but ejaculation is easy which makes it difficult to stop.
Which fails to address my point: Claim: If men were women there would be birth control that is 100% effective. Rebuttal: Men are men and we do not have a birth control method that is nearly as effective or varied as women's birth control.
Equal rights don't apply in cases of biological differences. Like it or not a man can't hold a child in his body so he can't have a say in abortion, since enforcing it would require the use of force against another person. That would be like saying a man's wife should "have a say" in whether or not he has a vasectomy. Unless the mane is a hermaphrodite with a functioning uterus who gets pregnant he can't have a say in abortion. As far as child support goes - while I toyed with this idea before, fact is the end result would be increasing the burden to the taxpayer - so assuming he is the biological father I'm fine with him paying the child support instead of him having free reign to father as many offspring as he wants on taxpayers' dime If he wants to do that he should have an affair with a married woman, so that her sap husband gets stuck paying the child support due to automatic presumption of paternity while married, lol
I think you misunderstood my point. My point is that if men were the ones who became pregnant, there would be more money and effort put into birth control research.
More money than there already is? How much money goes into research of male birth control methods? Why wouldn't men just want to research the 100% effective birth control method now (I mean, who wants to pay child support for twenty years)? How many dollars are spent on breast cancer research compared to prostate cancer (both types kill a similar number of people)? Your claim that if something effects men more money would go towards it is entirely false.
Twenty years of paying child support is nothing compared to giving birth and having to physically take care of a child for twenty+ years. 41,150 women and 405 men in the United States died from breast cancer, 27,244 men in the United States died from prostate cancer. Viagra says that I'm right.
Yeah just like there's more money put into prostate cancer research than their is breast cancer research :eye roll
Yeah for example compare breast cancer and prostate cancer Breast cancer receives much more research funding, publicity than prostate cancer despite similar number of victims Breast cancer awareness advocates have done an inspired job getting out word and excitement for their cause. Despite their success, prostate cancer has been left in the dust — both in terms of awareness and federal funding. Case in point, prostate cancer research receives less than half of the funding breast cancer does. In fiscal year 2009, breast cancer research received $872 million worth of federal funding, while prostate cancer received $390 million. It is estimated that fiscal year 2010 will end similarly, with breast cancer research getting $891 million and prostate cancer research receiving $399 million http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/05/b...ate-cancer-despite-similar-number-of-victims/
Equal rights? You both have the right to not have sex before you risk bringing a child into the world that would end up with irresponsible parents. I could care less about the parents at that point. It's all about the child and your rights are only limited because you made bad choices at the cost of another human being. Don't like that a woman has more rights in birthing the child? Find a woman who respects your decisions as a father and husband and stay away from woman who don't respect your 'responsibility' in all that happens with the child.
And a woman possess 100% of the authority to decide whether or not she chooses to give birth. Men have no free will in determining the status of their parenthood. Annual spending: Breast: $602,000,000 ($14,629 per victim) Prostate: $265,000,000 ($9,727 per victim) (For every $1 spent on breast cancer, $.66 is spent on breast cancer) http://breastcancerconsortium.net/resources/beyond-awareness-workbook/background/research-dollars/ My god, men are only funding their own health concerns! Viagra prevents pregnancy?!?! Viagra is birth control?!!?!?! Moving the ole' goal posts?
Do you truly know someone? You putting a lot of trust in someone not to easily obligate you to a twenty year contract.
You shouldn't have sex at all if you are not ready to accept the consequences. The child is entitled to two parents. There are heavy consequences for the children being raised without fathers. Rights become irrelevant at the point those rights are abused.
Considering that breast cancer is the biggest cancer killer of women while a man with prostate cancer is more likely to die with prostate cancer than from it, I'm not surprised.
The man doesn't get a say during the pregnancy because that part is done entirely and exclusively by the woman within her body. If or when a man is the one pregnant, he will be the one with the choice.
So you think that you have the right to tell a woman that she has to spend 9 months with what is basically a parasite living in her body, then go through one of the most painful experiences in her life just you can play father? Never said that. Plus if you look at the data I gave you you will see that for every 100 women that has breast cancer there are 66 men that have prostate cancer. Hmm... do you see a pattern there? What? Did you forget you own quote? Here it is in case you did: Either that or you totally missed my point which was that Viagra is something that affects men and more money goes to it.
Nope, just pointing out the party who makes the decision to carry on with the pregnancy and is 100% responsible for that decision.
Which fails t address the issue of trusting someone, on their word, that they will not obligate you to a twenty year contract on a whim.
You obligate yourself to the contract as well as she when you took the risk by having sex. I don't get your point. If you will not accept the consequences don't have sex. You don't get to decide that she must have an abortion because if she sees it as a real life than you would be asking her to commit murder.
The issue is women have almost zero accountability for the consequences of their actions and choices. When women are arrested for the same crimes as men the recieve 63% reduced sentences and that's after being many times less likely to even be prosecuted when they're arrested. That's not accountability. A 2009 study for the united states department of labor found that all but 5% of the 22% wage gap is the result of choice, and there's no evidence to suggest the 5% is the result of discrimination. In fact evidence suggests the 5% is the result of more choice that just can't be quantified bcs of the limitatations of the researchers model, multivariate regression analysis. Researchers believe the 5% is the result of women choosing more compensation in the form of benefits rather than wages but they can't quantify it because there's a high R value(coefficient of correlation) between dependant variables in their model. When there's high coefficient of correlation between dependant variables in multivariate regression analysis there is said to be colinearity. Basically when there's colinearity you cant tell what's influencing what. Is the dependant variable being influenced by another dependant variable like experience or is the dependant variable, benefits, being influenced by the independant variable gender. However, most likey every single percent of that 22% is the result of choice, not discrimination. It's just that the 5% can't be quantified. Men are more likely to study stem subjects that result in them being qualified for lucrative stem careers and women are more likely to study majors that result in them being qualified for less lucrative careers. So men tend to make more money when they graduate and this is men's fault. That's not accountability. A women goes to a bar, gets drunk, and has sex and regrets it the next day so it was rape? That's not accountability. And a woman doesnt take birth control that's 99% effective so she gets pregnant, yet she doesn't want to be inconvenienced by a pregnancy and a child so she kills a child through an abortion. That's not accountability. As an egalitarian I believe women should be just as accountable for the consequences of their actions and choices as men are. As an egalitarian, I believe that's equality.
We are talking about two different yet a bit related topics. You claim that you can trust a person not to arbitrarily obligate yourself to a twenty year contract. I ask how you can do that without essentially a formal and notarized agreement beforehand.
Feminism removes all but a little bit of accountability. Question, do you have a link for the department of labor study? I had this discussion with a friend of mine last week, he was very skeptical that the 22%+/- wage gap was a result of men and women typically choosing different careers.
