Men possess 0 reproductive rights

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any man who has sex is consenting to abortion. Any man who has sex is agreeing to have a child. That is the same logic as every woman agreeing to sex is consenting to having a child. It is exactly as legal to abort and give birth. Therefore, by prolife logic, any man having sex is consenting to abortion and is consenting to having a child.
     
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    Maybe you do, maybe you don't. Figure out which before you have sex with them, and expect to deal with the consequences if you decide poorly.




     
  3. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Or deal with the consequences if you choose wisely. lol That right there is the danger, the man has a gun to his head, a twenty year financial obligation, and 0 reproductive rights.
     
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    *shrug* He can choose not to reproduce. He's accountable if he does.




     
  5. FreshAir

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    the man has a say while the sperm is in his control, once he gives it to a women, she has the say

    just like if you give someone a kidney, once you give it up, you lose control over it

    now when they can take the embryo out of a women and put it in a man, we can revisit this

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  6. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Accountable despite 0 reproductive rights?

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    Does giving a kidney result in a twenty year financial contract that you did not consent to?
     
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    What do you think a right is?





     
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    Guess I'm still confused. And I'm assuming we're talking about men who are the biological father of the kid, rather than men forced to pay child support for a kid who wasn't theirs.

    If the man isn't obligated to pay for it, then who is? The taxpayers?

    Why should the taxpayers be forced to pay to support a child which they didn't consent to, instead of the man who consented to the act of intercourse?
     
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    http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender Wage Gap Final Report.pdf


    An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity
    in Wages Between Men and Women
    Containing
    A Foreword by the Department of Labor
    A Report by CONSAD Research Corp
     
  10. GrayMan

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    [MENTION=617]Wolverine[/MENTION]

    If this is all to prove that adherence to feminism causes one to stray from egalitarianism then this is all pointless because that is already a proven fact.


    You and women have equal rights to reproduce or not reproduce but once something is produced both your rights are limited due to the fact that there is a third party to be considered. A woman is given more right because Equality is all a idealistic dream that makes no sense in teh real world.

    Fact: men and women are not born equal they are born different. We only try to reach a measure of equality. No one advocates for stopping segregation in sports because everyone knows men and women are inherently different.
     
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    There are
     
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    Provide a citation.
     
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    Pretty much which is why I advise men to receive and get a commitment before having procreational type sex. Otherwise, get a Monica.
     
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    Vasectomy - http://www.webmd.boots.com/men/features/vasectomy-risks-benefits
    VasGel - http://www.parsemusfoundation.org/vasalgel-home/ NB: Already used in India and currently undergoing trials in the US, even though the trials in India were 100% successful with no side effects and 100% reversible the WHO refused to acknowledge the research done and as such clinical trials had to be started from scratch. Big Pharma companies do not want to be involved, in fact some are actively trying to block it as there is no profit for them in a single medical procedure that costs less than the needle used to inject the gel, they prefer the idea of having to take a table etc every day as this keeps their contraceptive profits high.
     
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    to quote Palin..... Abstinence is just not realistic
     
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    I think some children would be better off with one loving parent then one loving parent and one hateful one.... so it al depends on the circumstance, it's not a one size fits all
     
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    Who said anything about abstinence?
     
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    ... but if these expectations were followed there wouldn't be hateful parents.

    I suppose it depends on how you interpret my usage of the word, "ready".
     
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    Nope.

    How Well It Works
    Vasectomy is a very effective (99.85%) birth control method. Only 1 to 2 women out of 1,000 will have an unplanned pregnancy in the first year after their partners have had a vasectomy.2
    http://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/vasectomy-14387

    No Side Effects

    In the rabbit studies, Vasalgel resulted in azoospermia (no sperm) throughout the year-long study, which is also on par with the efficacy of your standard vasectomy. And when vasectomies are done “by the best” — a procedure done by a specialist could vary from one done by a general practitioner — Lissner said the rate of effectiveness is “99 percent-plus.” (in rabbits of course, LOL)
    http://www.medicaldaily.com/male-bi...eality-heres-everything-we-know-so-far-343032
     
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    Think twice before dipping that wick, eh.
     
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    Don't stick your dick in crazy.
     
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    yes there would, hateful parents sadly will always exist, just forcing people not to have sex except for procreation will not end hateful parents
     
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    The main problem with it is that men are still forced to pay for abortions even if they have nothing to do with the decision.

    There are several cases where a woman has chosen to have an abortion, against the wishes of the father, who wants to raise the child, and then sued the father of the child for refusing to pay for it, and in many cases they have won.

    The way I see it, if it's solely a woman's choice, is should solely her responsilbilty as well.

    Unless coersion on behalf of the father can be proven, he should not have to pay a single cent towards an abortion.
     
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    It takes two to get that egg fertilised. At that point the father inherits a certain amount of responsibility. Deal with it, eh.
     

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