99% of science technology is the result of white and East Asian men.

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There have been many mathematical discoveries. Such discoveries drive invention. You are grasping at straws in disingenuous desperation now.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't forget that Israeli's/Jews are Arabic/Semetic and they invented lots of stuff.

    The OP represents little other than the Ignorance.
     
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    Means of communicating have helped mankind better understand and apply mathmatics. Discovery is a very suitable word.
    My original comment about not inventing math was likely a succint response to some obtuse post.
    The entirety a matter of semantics. What compelled you to run with it?
     
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    In "context" of the OP "Science and Technology" - advancements in mathematics have been very important .. . not only to invention but to science and technology in general.

    Why you would play the semantics game and blurt out (clearly without thinking) " Math is not an invention" in a desperate attempt to justify stupidity is not for me to answer.
     
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    You know the truly hilarious thing about your unsubstantiable claim is that scientifically speaking there is no such thing as race. So all the inventions in the world were done by the same race...human. Race is a social/political construct based off of phenotypical attributes. The only thing scientific about race is the fact that some humans will always use racial definitions to divide people by their preconceived notions.
     
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    It was a sarcastic jab.
    Yes, understanding our world better has been beneficial.
    Richard Dawkins was being interviewed on latenight TV a couple of years ago. Steven Colbert maybe...not sure...He is of the opinion our scientific understanding and application will likely be our doom. Thoughts?
     
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    The abject ignorance of folks that make such claims in this day in age is sad commentary on humanity.

    I mean really "women have made no contribution to science and technology" throughout history so lets fire all the women scientists.

     
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    Next time a black/white guy assaults someone you love, make sure to tell your loved one to describe the suspect as "no race."
     
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    you find it funny when my asian dick is inside your hot wife? :roflol:
     
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    Watching how things are going ... the dude that made the movie Terminator should be thought of as a Prophet of the future.

    Industrial revolution was supposed to create utopia - produce more goods with less labor. Whats not to like about that ?
    Same with the computer-technology revolution.

    Rather than working less hours - as was the promise of these revolutions - we are working more. What these revolutions have done, in combination with other factors which I have trotted out in other threads in great detail, is allow for the formation of massive oligopolies. Our country is now run by a kind of "Oligopoly-Bureaucracy fusion monster" (OBFM) which has many heads.

    Extreme socialism and extreme capitalism end up at the same place .. a few elites controlling most (if not all) resources and means of production.

    Our system currently combines the worst elements of both.

    The benefits of the advances in technology go to the top and most of the rest of us slobs are reduced to a form of indentured slavery.

    Further advances in technology are not going to make this situation better ... it is going to make things worse.

    After the Cuban missile crisis there was a period of sobriety. Russia and the US adopted the "Mutually Assured Destruction" (MAD) doctrine which was a good thing. That sobriety has faded. We have idiots in relatively high places that have gone away from MAD and have been making policy on the new paradigm that a nuclear war is winnable.

    The whole point of the anti ballistic missile treaty was so that some "buckaroo" did not get the hair-brained idea that a nuke war was winnable. "We can shoot our missiles and when they shoot back we will just shoot them down".

    In 2002 Bush unilaterally pulled out of the ABM treaty. Putin's comment "this is a mistake". Then in 2007 Bush actually started putting ABM's on Russia's border in Czechoslovakia and Poland. This is stupid on so many levels it is not even funny.

    Missile defense had "ZERO" to do with gaining a strategic advantage and everything to do with feeding the Military head of the OBFM.

    1) Nuclear detente was destabilized "forcing" Russia to take counter measures and ramping up a new arms race.

    2) Countering Missile defense is such a joke that it is a complete waste of time.. it is so laughably easy that Russia was not forced to take drastic measures as they would have done would they have viewed these as a serious threat.

    A) Submarines - These can park close to the US and obviously "missile defense" in Poland will not do anything. One Sub (16 Missiles each with 10 MIRV's) = 160 bombs 5-7 times the size of Hiroshima. Strike 160 US cities with population of 500,000 or more off the map and tell me what is left.

    That is one sub.

    B) Nukes in space. Putin actually mentioned this. A nuke from Russia takes 30 min to get here. It does not make me feel more secure having nukes above my head 30 seconds away. Russia did not do this.

    C) Short/Medium range nukes. This was the option taken. Building short range cruise missiles violates the short and intermediate range treaty.

    If Russia was to launch, or counter-attack. They would first take out our communication satellites. Then they would take out the ABM's with nukes ... and then launch.

    Obama went on TV crying like a baby "Russia is violating the short and intermediate range treaty". For a few day the media was showing old shots of Reagan signing these treaties.

    What he (and our lovely mass media) fail to mention is ... btw ... we were the ones that forced Russia to take such counter-measures by putting ABM's on their borders.

    Why we "intentionally" moving the nuclear apocalypse clock closer to 12 midnight ?

    I really want to have faith in human intellect to ultimately not let technology end up in our doom. I really do. It is just that there is so much evidence to the contrary.
     
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    ^Oh, btw, this is not me laughing. It is your wife when I'm on top of her.
     
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    Race won't be important...the health of the person I love would be. What does it matter what race a person is that committed the assault. This of course is completely non-responsive to my point.
     
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    Yeah, I don't have much faith in human intellect. Stupid abounds. Maybe another bubonic plague via natural selection will help.
    I imagine envy and intolerance coupled with technology may finish us. Maybe the following life will do better. We'll see.
    Posters here fail to understand that to Americans who jave not lived or traveled abroad, Russia and Syria might as well be Mars. Africa, Europe, Asia, they are as far away as the moon. They don't understand the closest thing to war I can fathom is 9/11 and even that was surreal and took place in another region. We don't understand or relate to the constant conflict in the East.
    America may just eat itself into extinction...haha... America in 30-40 years will be a lot different. Whether for better or worse remains to be seen.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The people are starting to wake up. This we can see in a rejection of the establishment candidates. It is kind of interesting really. The raging masses, despite their raging ignorance (much through little fault of their own as this is due to lack of education) are realizing those in power are not on their side.

    Was a glimmer of hope when Ted Cruz actually praised Sanders of all people when he stood up before Congress (calling McConnell a liar) and ranting about crony capitalism and the influence of lobbyists.

    The word "Oligopoly-Oligarchy" is starting to become more common.

    There is a serious war of information going on. We saw some of this during Iraq war I but, this Syria thing is way to obvious... a real blunder IMO as all the mainstream media has been way to silent on this massive elephant in the room.

    I mean really ... what part of "We have been supporting Al Qaeda" "ISIS" and other Extremists is not newsworthy ?

    We got Rand Paul going on "State of the Union" and to a shocked Candy Crowley saying:

    http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2...-my-son-into-that-mess-on-the-crisis-in-iraq/

    Like ... ummmm excuse me ? What did Rand just say ? We keep hearing the State Department talking about "moderate" rebel this and moderate rebel that.

    After a comment like that from someone who is congress, on the council of foreign relations and so on "if it were false", the media would be all over it (Red, Blue, Purple) Television and Print.

    Silence.

    It's really something. I am thinking there is a high probability that this elephant is going to burst out of the closet prior to the 2016 election.
     
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    Why do you suppose we are all over the Middle East? And have been for decades??
     
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    American presence in the Middle East is seldome brought up. When GW left office and dems didn't pull out discussion of the topic died. Most of us imagine our occupation is oil related. We aren't too concerned about it.
    Where do you live?
    American news is internet based. Network news and the paper are near obsolete.
     
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    Foreign policy 90% of the time has an economic reason. Trying to maintain economic hegemony -and it is important that we do this - but, there are limits.

    These limits are both on a moral basis but also on the basis of what is in the best interests of "we the people". It is not always easy to figure out the economic motive but from what I have read there are two competing pipeline interests for the provision of gas/ oil to what has been termed "the new silk road"

    India and China are hungry for energy and this is a massive market. Keeping the area destabilized prevents a pipeline from being built through Syria/Iraq.

    I don't really think US interests care whether or not Assad is in power and certainly they have given no legitimate reasons why Assad is such a threat. They have not even been able to come up with reasons that pass the giggle test ... never mind resemble legitimacy.

    Like it or not Syria is sovereign nation. Arming an insurgency in a foreign nation is violation of international law... Period.

    That the insurgency we have been arming, supporting and protecting is Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, ISIS makes this not only a violation of international law but a violation of our own stated National Security interests.

    Even some of our "NATO" allies are supporting Russia. What is this doing to our credibility on the foreign stage ..at a time when such credibility is more important than it ever has been since the end of WW2 ?
     
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    Dude, neither Muslims nor Jews eat bacon. How smart can they possibly be? :smile:
     
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    Whites, include people in west Asia, since they also have blue/green/brown eyes,
    yellow/brown/red hair, did/are doing/will do all works in science.



    east Asian people, chinese/Japanese/Korean/south east Asian did nothing.
    They invented 0 machine in the last 200 years.

    all ancient Chinese inventions are fake, as my posts discussed.
     
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    This is untrue. No culture or people are better or superior to each other and this is falsehood. If Eurasians are doing better at doing scientific and technological things it is not their racial elements it is some geographical advantages or environmental factors they have over the rest. You have to go through scientific searches into the subject. It is not cultural attributes. All cultures, races are equally gifted and the question is some culture got more exposed and others remained secluded
     
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    you said: No culture or people are better or superior to each other and this is falsehood.
    Then why you do not go and live in a third world country.
    and why blacks, yellows flood to US/EU?
     
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    Your answer is indistinct and vague. Please illuminate what you want to say with examples. Prove how one race of people superior to another with facts.
     
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    Said greatly. Race has nothing to do with inventions. Invention or discovery can be anywhere but the fact however is all do not have the same opportunity and others have socioeconmic or environmental advantages that help them do better
     
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    You have a point on race but how about tour claim that no culture is superior ? Why does the US and Israel lead the world in inventing things?
     
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    Invention requires idle time. If you concerned about where your next meal is coming from you do not have the time or energy to invent a better toaster oven. It also helps that we give out copious amounts of money for research...by far and away the best. It also helps that most of those are block grants directly to the scientists. This is of course in spite of conservatives instead of because of them. There is not a day gone by in the last 10 years that I have not heard some conservative make a quip about studying the mating rituals of the yellow backed tree frog and how frivolous that science spending is.
     

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