Saud committing war crimes in Yemen

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/yemen-saudi-arabia-bombing-war-civilians

We are hearing very little about this war in the news.

My question is what the heck are we doing getting involved in another ME conflict ? These people want to kill each other ... Fine. Why do we have to be involved in killing civilians and as such a bunch of hypocrites.

We whine about Russia targeting "moderate rebels" (these are not civilians and these "so called moderates have been likened to mythical unicorns) but then turn around and support wanton killing of civilians.

When we examine a bit deeper we find Houthi Rebels ousted the Yemeni Government. These are backed by Iran. OK bad stuff ... perhaps like the US backing a rebel group in Syria but what is our role in this ?

The Houthi's are enemies of Al Qaeda, ISIS and so on. Are these then not our allies in the fight against Al Qaeda ? Yemen is now a Jihadist wonderland - those fighting the Houthi.

It is getting really irritating watching our Government supporting (directly or indirectly) Al Qaeda/ISIS.

 

The Saudis have been propping Yemen up for 40 years.. building colleges, hospitals, creating jobs, providing food, gasoline and medicine.. Yemen is the poorest country in the region and is now home to AQ, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab, assorted Somali pirates and the al Houthis..

Its a failed state on Saudi's southern border and they are forever sending suicide bombers across the mountains into Asir.

Yemen is awash in guns and is basically lawless outside of the capital.

The al Houthis, as representatives of Iran, want to take control of the Bab al Mendab and the entrance to the Persian Gulf in the East.

No question that its a mess.. but it has been for as long as I can remember. First it was the royalists against the communists all thru the 1960s and now this.

Their struggling oil production has collapsed once again .. and they closed 500 factories 3 years ago.

 

Sounds like regime change is the way to go then ! Why are we getting involved on the wrong side of that change?

 

Dont forget

http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-loses-500-million-weapons-yemen-141526040.html

Yes folks our foreign policy is a cluster (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Why can't nations understand the only way to do war is without actually injuring anyone? Clearly, we could have prevailed in WWII without actually hurting people.

 

The al Houthis are the immediate, critical threat.. I will bump a thread to you. The SAG built a fence to keep the out of KSA about 15 years ago.

 

Enough of war!

 

Thanks for the article. You know what irritates me the most is not losing the weapons.

What really gets me riled is: "A Pentagon spokesman declined to comment on the record about the newspaper’s report"

We lose track of 500 million in military equipment and the Pentagon can just ignore requests from "we the people" as to what happened?

Further .. are we not allowed to know where those weapons ended up ?

It is not a form of totalitarianism/dictatorship when the Government is no longer responsible to the people for its actions?

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A threat to who/what ? Some color please.

 

Interesting that you ignore how iran overthrew a democratically elected Yemen government, or how it has been committing War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity for decades, or how syria/assad has been slaughtering 300K people there using barrel bombs...a bit of selective outrage you have?

 

Tell that to Iran and the al Houthis..

What I don't get is that when countries are as broken and impoverished as Syria and Yemen.. they go to war and destroy their infrastructure and any chance for kids to go to school or for farmers to cultivate crops or for their oil production to function. Swimming for the drain..

And I sure don't see why Russia would try to save Assad.. What can they do with Syria once they SAVE him?

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To Saudi Arabia.. all the Gulf states and oil transport as well as to the Yemeni people.. I bumped the Critical Treats thread.. Why don't you read it?

 

I stated in my post that Iran supports the Houthi's who overthrew the Government ?

Your claim that Assad has killed 300 K people with barrel bombs is unsupported.

You seem to have reading comprehension and fallacy issues combined with an urge to spew made up nonsense as if it was fact.

 

I do not blame the Houthi's for rejecting extremist Islamic "Wahhabi" influence.

Good for them. I don't think we should be supporting anyone but if we must it should be the Houthi's.

 

Yemen is just another example of the stunning hypocrisy of the US government.

They call for the removal of Assad while they funnel arms to one of the most anti-democratic, regressive regimes on the entire planet in Saudi Arabia so that the latter can wantonly bomb civilians who rose up against an illegitimate western puppet regime.

No thinking person can look at US government policies in the ME and conclude that the establishment are anything but diabolical and evil.

 

You're comparing WWII to a proxy war in Yemen? You should be embarrassed.

 

Are you lying or just ignorant?

"It is the embassy's firm belief that if Yemen had any concrete evidence that the Houthis had connections to either Hezbollah or Iran, it would have produced it immediately; the lack of such evidence likely indicates that the Yemeni government lacks any real proof of such links." Tehran's influence, the dispatch reads, "is limited to informal religious ties between Yemeni and Iranian scholars and negligible Iranian investment in the energy and development sectors."
--Spiegel

The selective outrage comes from people like you who demonize Iran and Syria while ignoring and even attempting to justify the many war crimes and crimes against humanity committed by US government allies like the Saudi monarchy or the Yemeni President.

 

Realities trump your naïve righteous indignation.. How do you think the US could impact the Iranian/al Houthis in Yemen? How do you think the Saudis or the US could stop AQ or the Boko Haram or al Shabaab in Yemen? Do you think we could all just WISH them away?

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There is ample evidence of the Al Houthis/Iran threat for many years.. It wasn't critical until 2011.

 

Nothing you say on Saudi Arabia can be taken seriously. Your bias in favor of that evil, corrupt regime is so obvious it's laughable. Just remember that when you apologize for them as you routinely do, you're staining your hands with the blood of their many victims.

 

What is our involvement in the Yemen war?

 

Actually that claim is crap.. The Saudi Wahhabis are quite docile.. I lived around them for many years.. They are like Calvanists.

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Nothing actually... A few months back we stopped arms shipments from Iran to Yemen, but now the Saudis have retaken the port .........

 

Kind of like how the Obama administration lost over 2000 weapons to drug cartels.

 

Aside from the special forces and the drones which have been there for years, providing the platforms, munition, and logistical support for the Saudi military. Without US government assistance, there is no way Saudi Arabia could sustain their war in Yemen.

 

Laughable.

That is the exact opposite of reality. Aside from the years-long presence of US special operations and drones, the US government has provided the former Yemeni President with hundreds of millions of dollars worth of military and financial assistance. He used this money, not to attack AQ in Yemen, but to wage war on his political rivals and opponents, namely, the Houthis. And now the US government is providing Saudi Arabia the platforms, the munitions, the intelligence, and the logistical support they need to wage war on the Houthi uprising in neighboring Yemen. I know you lived in Saudi Arabia and luxuriated with the Saudi elites while you were there, but that does not mean you are allowed to just make things up that are patently false.

Investigative journalist Jeremy Scahill reports:

[video=youtube;t9kdx6GQAo8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9kdx6GQAo8[/video]

And a report from Spiegel on the US government's extensive involvement in Yemen's conflicts: 'Operation Scorched Earth': A US Hand in Yemen's Civil War

Again, I want to stress the fact that just because you lived in Saudi Arabia doesn't mean you can just ignore objective facts and fabricate things willy-nilly.

A statement lacking in any evidence or credibility.

 

So you're pretending that iran is not supplying the Houthis with weapons?

Hardly. I simply believe that iran, who is fomenting wars across the mideast and beyond, is a far more aggressive and troublesome bad actor than the saudis are, which is a fact. Lots of anti-american/western/israeli putin boot lickers like to act as if iran/syria/assad/hezbollah/russia are somehow not such monstrous scum and filth, and will deny the obvious no matter how much evidence to the contrary is presented.

 

The same can be applied to your posts, simply re-direct to iran.

 

From the link in the OP: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/09/yemen-saudi-arabia-bombing-war-civilians

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