Saud committing war crimes in Yemen

That makes sense, since wahhabism is only found in saudi arabia. Nothing more hilarious than a poster creating a self-fulfilling strawman...

What a nugget of information, thanks for sharing... Yes, that really indicts the country of SA because a handful of expats committed a crime - now that's what I call REALLY deep thinking there, sparky. Will you next scream how iran is not arab, but persian for the cheap seats as well?

When I see SA troops/operatives fomenting wars in bahrain, libya, iraq, syria, afghanistan, sudan, the west bank, gaza, lebanon and yemen the way iran is, THEN your lunatic claims might hold some water, but not before.

 

Saudi Arabia is digging a big hole for itself. It is financing war while its oil revenues are down and it is running huge budget deficits. Saudi Arabia's actions could ruin it morally, materially and financially. There is already a Shia uprising in Saudi Arabia which may grow as Saudi Arabia depletes it's munitions and over-extends itself in Yemen.

 

No explanation is required. Anyone with basic reading comprehension can see that your claim was proven false and that you attempted to move the goalposts after the fact.

Here is your original claim:

Here is me proving it false:

"It is the embassy's firm belief that if Yemen had any concrete evidence that the Houthis had connections to either Hezbollah or Iran, it would have produced it immediately; the lack of such evidence likely indicates that the Yemeni government lacks any real proof of such links." Tehran's influence, the dispatch reads, "is limited to informal religious ties between Yemeni and Iranian scholars and negligible Iranian investment in the energy and development sectors."
--Spiegel

And here is you dishonestly attempting to move the goalposts:

Your original statement was a pure fabrication and now anyone who was reading our exchange knows it.

 

You don't even know what a strawman is, though you love to accuse people of using them.

The fact is that AQ and ISIS are both branches of the Wahhabi terrorist ideology that Saudi Arabia exports and finances. It's the ideology that was behind the 9/11 attacks which killed 3,000 Americans on American soil. The idea that Iran's actions in their own region can even come close to the severity of 9/11 is the most pathetic and laughable assertion you've made yet.

It certainly does indict the country. They are the ones who provided the ideology and the terrorists who were behind the worst terrorist attack in American history. Not only that, their central government is one of the most anti-democratic and repressive regimes on the planet. But that doesn't seem to bother you, judging by your incessant apologia for their exportation of terrorism and brutally repressive government.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and Yemen are all countries that the US government has invaded and/or bombed along with the aid and assistance of Saudi Arabia. Your manufactured, phony concern for the region is beyond laughable. You only object to aggression and destabilization when you believe it's being done by someone other than the US government or its puppet regime in Saudi Arabia. Otherwise, you are perfectly fine with wars of aggression that kill thousands of civilians. Your position is characterized by multiple levels of phoniness and hypocrisy.

 

There is no Shia uprising in Arabia and they are not going broke.. Where do you come up with such crap?

 

Saudi Arabia rounds up and imprisons anyone who supports ISIS or AQ... or goes to Syria to fight and they freeze their assets... Further, the GCC states are now home to a half million Syrian refugees.

 

Of course Saudi Arabia doesn't tolerate terrorists in its own country. But they have no problem sending them to other countries.

As for those 500,000 refugees in Saudi Arabia, it's not as simple as you make it out to be: Syria’s Refugees Feel More Welcome in Europe Than in the Gulf

 

That's how every country operates.

 

I expect America to adhere to higher standards than that, otherwise we have no business calling ourselves "exceptional".

 

America should not get involved.

 

The insta-pundits can write anything about KSA and people will believe it because they are so ignorant. I doubt Bloomberg has any stringers in Saudi Arabia or the GCC.

The Syrians in the Gulf are not living in camps.. They live out on the economy, work and their children go to school.. However, Syria is not like KSA.. They have their own culture and identity.. But, most Westerners think that all Arabs are the same.

Saudi Arabia doesn't support terrorism.. Only a fool would make such claims.. They have been carrying on a campaign against Saudis going to Syria or elsewhere for 15 years now .. because they think it will make things WORSE for the Syrians.

Further, they spend MORE money per capita than the US on humanitarian and foreign aid for Muslims everywhere.

Have YOU spent any time in Arabia? Do you know any Saudis or anyone in government?

 

You proved nothing, and didn't even include a link. I'll do that for you:

http://www.ibtimes.com/yemen-crisis...e-over-government-dissolve-parliament-1807928

"Yemen Crisis: Iran-Backed Houthi Rebels Take Over Government, Dissolve Parliament

 

That you continue to lie and pretend iran, who is one of those responsible for the hundreds of thousands of dead through war and terrorism in the mideast over the past 3 decades, is not worse than the 3K dead americans, is a sign you're not even remotely credible.

So if 5 americans went to denmark and killed some people, all 350 million americans are responsible? What?

Hilarious how you try to put the iran-backed wars of hegemony and aggression onto the US. Someone should ask if you are paid by the iranians.

 

Saudi Arabia is fomenting trouble all around the Muslim world with it's finance of schools and mosques managed by radical Wahhabis and it's finance of terrorism and insurrection all around the world. Saudi Arabians were 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers.

Yemen and Syria are just other stepping stones for Saudi Arabia. They have already enslaved the Gulf States and virtually control the policies of Egypt through multi billion dollar grants and loans and free oil.

If any Muslims are seeking world domination, it is the Saudis.

 

I did provide a link. It's the green hyperlink below the quote that says "Spiegel" and it comes straight from the US Embassy cables in Yemen.

 

Iran's policies in that region have been largely responsive to US government imperialism which began in the 1950's when they attempted to overthrow Iran's democratically elected government. Funny how you ignore the long and well-established history of US government intervention and aggression when analyzing the behavior of Iran in their own region of the world.

And when are you going to acknowledge the obvious difference between Iran resisting US imperialism in their own region and Saudi complicity in an attack on the American homeland?

Oh, so now you're against collective punishment and demonization. Good to know. I'll bring that up the next time you smear Iran and Russia.

Sorry if I view conflicts in the context of history and factual information. Not everyone can inhabit a US government-loving fantasy world like you.

We can start with the US/UK overthrow of Iran's democratically elected leader in the 1950's. I assume you think that was perfectly acceptable?

 

This is a litmus test example to determine whether 1) a person has a clue about history 2) is anti-american by definition.

The US did not overthrow anyone, it paid iranians who were already committed to removing mossadegh, who had tried to illegally usurp the shah's powers. Stick to the facts, and not the kgb propaganda.

Funny how you continue to run interference for iran, and claim it has some special "right" to foment wars across the region simply because it is geographically closer. I don't recall the lebanese voting for iran to create an armed militia there, or for the pal arabs in gaza.

Ugh, now I am beginning to see what type of poster I am dealing with. If you call iran's terrorism and wars "resistance" then there is really nothing to discuss. Excusing away/apologizing for terrorism is a non-starter, and if that defines your juvenile reasonsing power on this subject, save yourself a response - I am not interested in further discussion with you.

Another strawman. Show where I've attacked the country of iran, and not its disgusting regime and supporters. Good luck.

 

Oh, right. Big difference there. I'm sure if Russia or Iran had sent their intelligence operatives to America in order to foment rebellions and overthrow the government, you'd feel exactly the same way...

And why do you keep accusing me of being "anti-American"? Are you one of these people who conflates slavish devotion to the US government with love for America? Because I can assure you they are not the same thing.

First of all, I never claimed that Iran had any such "right", so you are lying, as usual.

Secondly, I'm an AMERICAN, which means I'm concerned with what happens in AMERICA. Maybe you should move to Lebanon if you're so concerned with what happens there.

I will respond to whatever I want whenever I want, especially when it's a bunch of dishonest, hypocritical garbage like you are wont to post.

And, yes, calling it "resistance" to imperialism is an accurate statement, as the US government has been engaging in imperialism in the region for decades, beginning with their overthrow of the Iranian government in the 1950's which you laughable tried to rationalize.

CIA Admits It Was Behind Iran’s Coup

Oh, so now you are suddenly capable of distinguishing between a country and its government. Apparently, you cannot make that distinction when it comes to America and the US government.

I'm just wondering if you're being purposely dishonest or if you don't realize just how hypocritical, inconsistent, and phony your positions really are.

 

The iran apologists and water carriers need to deflect what those 2 cancers have done in the mideast onto others; its a way for them to try and make themselves feel better about all of the thousands injured/killed by iranian terrorism.