Red Cross volunteers heading to storm struck areas... any atheist organizations???

I'm simply asking for a list of atheist organizations that are participating in the relief efforts... feel free to name some...

 

many Atheists donate to the red cross, so they are just as much a part of the good deeds the red cross does

 

Since atheists aren't an organized group, why would you expect there to be many atheist organizations?

That's like asking for the list of "people who like toast" organizations that are participating in relief efforts.

You know what atheists do? They found a group that does a particular thing. It's not labeled "atheist". It's labeled "American Lung Association." Or "Amazon". Or "Google."

 

"Faith-based Soup Kitchen Turns Away Atheist Group Hoping to Volunteer"

http://www.christianpost.com/news/f...way-atheist-group-hoping-to-volunteer-107621/

"The group gave out 300 care packages containing socks, gloves, deodorant, toothpaste and antiseptic wipes among other items after raising about $2,000 through an online campaign to fund their efforts. "

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I'm pretty sure the ones demanding religious organizations be dissolved are not donating... I don't deny there are some atheist who donate to religious organizations, I just want to know where are the atheist organizations run by those who say religion has no place in doing this work... where are the ones who scream they shouldn't have bibles or crosses or say prayers at disaster events, when people need help, they don't seem to have an organization of their own doing the work thats critically needed... they just demand all these religious organizations simply disappear, so who would be left to do all the work they are right now at all these disaster areas today, tomorrow, etc...

 

"From Muslim volunteers to digger drivers and Army troops... The heroes who keep hope afloat. ROBERT HARDMAN looks at the generous, brave and compassionate acts to come out of devastating Storm Desmond floods"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ts-come-devastating-Storm-Desmond-floods.html

were all human, we all pitch in where we can.... some do it for reasons other then trying to promote a religion though

 

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Have you ever seen the Swiss flag?

 

atheist donate to many secular charities.... they do not need charities to promote their beliefs to donate.... that is not the point of donating

most theists are the same way....

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6:1-4&version=NKJV

Matthew 6:1-4New King James Version (NKJV)

6 “Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2 Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 3 But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 that your charitable deed may be in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will Himself reward you openly.[a]

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The link below was easy to find. "atheists.org" encourages anyone who can, to help provide the critical resources that relief organizations need.


Ref:
We recommend giving to organizations which provide real relief to victims of tragedy, and not to organizations which use your charitable donations for proselytizing those who are most vulnerable.

In particular, we strongly support the work of the following organizations:
Humanist Crisis Response, American Red Cross, Doctors Without Borders

http://atheists.org/relief

 

well since I'm not religious I don't care what you quote in the bible... I'm simply asking for examples from atheist who say religious organizations have no business going to disaster areas and handing out religious literature if people request it... I'm simply wondering where all the atheist hypocrites are when disasters arise and only religious organizations seem to be going in, where are all the giant organized atheist disaster relief agencies helping the thousands of american every single day for these events...

 

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well not to defend the haters, but I myself am an atheist and I give... I just hate the hypocrisy I see in the world today... people demanding others be stopped from exercising their rights to help people how they see fit, as if charity must conform to the beliefs or ideology of those who won't participate in that one... they are free if they dislike a charity, to not donate, to setup their own, or to go about their merry way hopping and skipping down the road past those who need help... but I am just annoyed at all the attacks on religious organizations simply because someone else doesn't believe in them... almost every city in this country is a beneficiary of a christian charity that is giving back to its community on an almost daily basis, yet atheists, if they got their way, would have none of them exist... all because of their hate...

so while I won't venture to say 99% of atheist don't care, I'm mostly just concerned about the ones who want to prevent others from practicing their rights to help others...

I'm still waiting for someone in this thread to give me a list of atheist organizations that are helping out with the disasters all across this country... I mean when a home burns down, where are the atheist organizations with a warm car or bus, blankets, clothes, lodging for the night, or any of the other things they provide daily to people... someone on this thread actually sent me a private message, saying that is governments job, and conservative religious nuts need to stop cutting the funding... (smack head)

 

like I said, they dont care.

They're only concerned with themselves.

Youre probably an exception, and most likely miscategorizing yourself, as an atheist, when youre actually agnostic.

Typically speaking, the average atheist lacks empathy.

Example: Someone who is agnostic doesnt give a damn if Christmas is a celebration of Jesus' birthday, they give gifts to friends and loved ones cause they like to make people happy. The average atheist refuses to even make people happy, because someone else might think its a celebration of Jesus' birthday.

 

well it wouldn't be the first time others have miscategorized myself, especially on this website lol... whatever side I challenge, I get labeled as the other... which is what worries me the most, people in like-minded bubbles who don't want any other bubbles to exist, just their own... and the internet is assisting segregation to an extreme measure... I just picture people running around the bubbles popping them like kids chasing bubbles and giggling as they pop them and get rid of any other thoughts...

 

I said theists, are you saying your not a theist... your an atheist?

 

you've said atheist and theist... I don't believe in a god... I'm simply asking those who also don't believe, where are they when the (*)(*)(*)(*) hits the fan and all these religious organizations go in to help with disaster relief... especially on our own soil... yet they demand these organizations be stopped because of their religious undertone or start...

its a very simple question, where are all the atheist organizations that do what the salvation army and red cross do almost every single day in america during emergencies...

 

they are there too, they are the ones not trying to push their beliefs on the people they are helping with pamphlets pushing their beliefs I guess

seriously though, most people, both theists and atheists do not feel the need to push their beliefs on people when they are in a situation like this

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I guess thats my point... the atheist takes the help when he needs it, then mocks and discourages it when he doesn't... so if he got his way, nobody would exist to help him...

 

Wouldn’t it be hypocritical for atheists who object to specifically religious charities to start specifically atheist ones? The argument against religious bias through charitable work is a call for secularism, not further division, and that fact is that the vast majority of major disaster response organisations are now secular in practice even if they had religious influence in their formation. The Red Cross remains a perfect example of that, regardless of whether you admit it or not.

There will have been all sorts of different concerns or complaints raised about religion in charity, some valid and some not, some raised by atheists/non-religious and some raised by other followers of other religions. For you to try to turn this in to yet another simplistic atheist verses religious argument is dishonest and harmful, exactly the kind of thing that shouldn’t have any influence in charitable work in any way what so ever.

 

The red cross is not a religious organization, they are an independent establishment made up of people of various nationalities and religions. The organization was founded in Switzerland, so their emblem is the Swiss flag with the colors reversed

 

why can't an atheist start a charity without it being hypocritical... I think the hypocritical part is them demanding the religious charities be dissolved and then not starting a charity of their own that has no religious foundation or undertone... thats the hypocrisy... they demand the charity goes away and then don't replace it with one of their own...

 

once again you know nothing of the history of the red cross, feel free to tour their own museum in geneva to learn about the immensely rich history religion had on this organization... and still has today... it would not be what it is today without religion, yet everyone wants to fufu it as trivial or dismissive... its okay to be religious... they strive not to push their religion on others, nothing wrong with that, but it does not negate their foundation and long history of religion...

 

I think the argument by many is that the Red Cross is no longer a religious organization - which makes the premise in the OP to be false. I also do not believe the RC was set up initially as a religious organization but I could be incorrect. The founder of the RC was indeed deeply religious and also set up the Young Men's Christian Association (YMCA) which is now a, non-religious, gym.

Over time though the religious overtones have been replaced by their mission.

 

The red Cross is not a Christian or religious organization.

 

Why should there be?

That isn't logical.

Atheism isn't a religion or a "group" or a club or an organization.

Why do YOU , as a christian, try so hard with lies and misinformation to denigrate others???

Is that what christians do?



Show PROOF no atheist HAS helped those in need.


Just because they aren't filled with the sin of PRIDE and need to brag about their good works like christians doesn't mean they don't do them....



BTW, atheist help out of a sense of compassion and humanity....Christians are FORCED to help or they are threatened with everlasting hell....

 

Athiests have never made any such demands that charitable organizations go away or be disbanded.

Athiests have many objections to religion and its influences but not against the occasional charity.

Either way the red Cross is not a Christian organization even if many of its members are Christian.