Buffalo Police Confiscate Registered Guns Of the Deceased

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  1. OrlandoChuck

    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    There doesn't have to be a will. Does a spouse have to leave her home when her husband dies? Does she lose all the home furnishings and possessions?
     
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    I agree with you. If the cops can do it on the scene that would be the best thing. But if there is any doubt just do it at the station house. You might lose your guns for a day.....not too high of a price
     
  3. OrlandoChuck

    OrlandoChuck Well-Known Member

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    The story is that police are indiscriminately confiscating firearms from the deceased. No questions asked to the family. Thats the issue here.
    I'll bet in most cases there are lawful spouses and children that can legally take possession. Why should cops be able to remove the gun from the home, instead of making sure the family has no felonious history. Its easy enough to call that in. If they have done nothing wrong, there should be no red tape that they have to deal with.
    If there is a felon in the house, a gun is not allowed in the home anyhow.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    what brands-chances are I have owned it or am totally familiar with them
     
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    Prove that such is the case, rather than your own made up assessment used to justify the confiscation.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This story is two years old. Got any follow up stories of someone screwed over by this policy?
     
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    Except there has not been even a single case of the police for the state of New York ever returning firearms to the relatives of the deceased. They are either destroyed, or procured by individual police officers for their own purposes.

    In the state of New York, no one is legally allowed to own or possess a handgun without first obtaining a state-issued permit to own such a firearm. The application process is cumbersome, expensive, and the wait time to find out whether or not your application has been accepted or denied can take a year or more. Those tasked with issuing such permits are under no obligation to accept any application, and do not have to provide reason for why the applicant was denied.

    No firearms have ever been returned to the families of the deceased. They were all either destroyed, or disappeared into the hands of police officers.
     
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    Then it sounds like New York is simply following the law. Get a permit or no guns
     
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    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Good reason not to live there...they like to confiscate your money too...insane taxes
     
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    And it is an infringement because unless you are rich or famous, they won't give you one.

    It is as clear a violation of the 2A as much as DC's restriction on legal ownership of handguns. Amazingly it did nothing to stop those illegally possessing firearms to turn it into the murder capital of the country. More than a little ironic isn't it.
     
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    Thank you for your legal opinion. Apparently new York courts disagree
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So did DC courts. Till they got (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) slapped by SCOTUS.
     
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    But not in NY. LOL
     
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    That's why I don't live there.
     
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    There is a 15 day grace period where during that time the registration can be transferred to another person. You misrepresent the argument that registration does not lead to confiscation as the argument is used to counter the argument that "registration leads to confiscation, just look to Hitler and Pol Pot for an example".

    One of the functions of registration is that it can be used for selective confiscation, for example a suicidal or homicidal person who has weapons should have them confiscated.
     
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    A great place to start would be every gang in the US.
     
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    New York is a State, not a federal district.
     
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    thanks for the clarification.
     
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    Does that sound like the intended spirit of the 2nd amendment?
     
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    Here is the State's version of the Second Amendment: Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    Why do those State and local representatives of the People, believe gun lovers cannot be trusted with simple open and concealed carry laws?
     
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    The state of new york is a defacto police state. I lived there for a number of years and New York city is the worst of all.
     
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    Why not clamor for better militia laws?
     
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    Actually this exact thing happened in Illinois. Over 3000 people were late, or forgot to renew their FOID cards at the time of the decision of the governor decision to confiscate. The police went door to door taking their guns. These people didn't do any criminal acts mind you, they just forgot a small date printed out years in the future on their little cards.
     
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    Maybe gun lovers just need to get more cozy with their Undersheriffs?
     
  25. OrlandoChuck

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    Concealed carry licensees have demonstrated that they are responsible people.
    The anti gun legislators could care less about that stat, they have a vision of a future gun free America.
     

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