Buffalo Police Confiscate Registered Guns Of the Deceased

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  1. danielpalos

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    Then, clamor for better militia laws or get cozier with your Undersheriff. Regulators should be able to open or conceal carry, whenever available for posse duty.
     
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    It didn't sink in......... It doesn't matter what we do..... the agenda of the left is the vision of a gun free America in the future. Trying to get cozy with a sheriff wont stop the attack on the second amendment.
     
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    you don't believe in faithfully executing our own laws?
     
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    It has been demonstrated countless times that the police officers do not. The supreme court has even ruled that not only does the law not mean what it is written to say, but the police do not need to know what the law actually says in order to enforce the law.
     
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    Thus showing that your original claim, that the confiscation of firearms of the deceased is nothing but a minor inconvenience, is nothing but a deliberate exercise in intellectual dishonesty. In simple, uncomplicated, easy to understand terms, you have been caught engaging in a lie.
     
  6. danielpalos

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    It just needs to be litigated more until we discover an acceptable solution. Some who advocate for Individual Liberty are busy with an even more useless, War on Drugs.
     
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    And this right here is the reason why we are against Gun Registration
    because a gun registration list can be used for gun confiscation that you gun grabber make the false claim would never happen
     
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    Your guns are already "registered" at the point of sale, usually.
     
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    and why I'm against it because if leads to gun confiscation
     
  10. danielpalos

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    have you been Bad and not Good with your guns?
     
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    That's not the point. Were the Jews were bad with their guns and that's why hitler registered and then confiscated them?
     
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    Well regulated militia don't have that problem in the US, why do you?
     
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    Don't be surprised when they start rounding citizens up and detaining them for weeks without charges . Is history repeating , what does this remind us of ??????:steamed:
     
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    That's far from the truth. There are only 11 states with universal background check laws. The other states let you sell from individual to individual at will.
     
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    isn't "proof of ownership" usually some form of "registration" at the point of sale?
     
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    Unless background checks are "universal", the registration database can be circumvented by private sales and becomes incomplete and therefore inconclusive as well. Private sales take away the "proof" that you still own your store bought guns.
     
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    The point is, consumer data is required to make that purchase.
     
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    Only when you purchase from a gun store in the form of a 4473. When the background check is put in, the kind of gun is not noted, it's just put in as a long gun or a pistol. The only time your gun comes up is when the ATF specifically calls the store for that specific information. From there however, you can sell your gun privately and the trail stops. You don't have to have a bill of sale in the other 39 states. Once the gun is sold, it is then lost as far as tracking is concerned.
     
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    That should not be a problem for law abiding Persons in our Republic, usually.
     
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    it goes as far as the last honest owner or one with a good memory
     
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    more ignorance on display by the gun grabbers
    to obtain a licenses to sell fire arms as a dealer you are required to perform federal back ground checks on all fire arms sold there for no need for a state to have a redundant system, and only reason for a state to have a redundant system so the state has a gun ownership registry so they can do exactly what Buffalo is doing confiscating guns because it is against the law for the federal government to release its list of ownership
     
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    It's not a problem.

    I disagree with registration as it is no ones business knowing what I have but my own. Not saying that our government will go crazy and try to pull some crazy (*)(*)(*)(*), but it *might happen. I'm sure people in other countries where they registered firearms never thought their government would take them (Germany right before Hitler went crazy, China, Russia, the list is long of countries that started with registration, then confiscation). My main issue is that the state might release my information to the public and say "this is _____________ he lives at _____________ and has firearms". Yes, this has actually happened here in the states before. We already know over 1.4 million firearms are stolen every year from people's houses, why the hell would you give out the location of other firearms? This is my main concern.
     
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    I have sold a number of weapons from my collection over the years, usually to get something new and shinny I am interested in. I have a record of every single sale that includes a copy of the bill of sale which the buyer signs that they call legally own a gun, a image copy of the buyer's drivers license and in many cases I also image their CCW if they have one. Twice I have had people say they didn't want to comply, wanting to do a transaction sans a bill of sale and not wanting to show proof of identity and in both cases I refused the sale. That is what I do, but I will never provide that info to anyone else, unless a gun I sold is tracked back to me and then I would only provide that info for that specific weapon.
     
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    What are you saying?
     
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    why not get more well regulated?
     

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