A modest proposal

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  1. FrankCapua

    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem with terrorism is not the bulk of muslims, but the radical muslim clerics who promote radical islam. They could be identified by infiltration and then taken out.

    This would lessen if not halt the radicalization of individuals.
     
  2. Bowerbird

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    Define "radical". Are you going to apply this equally to all splinter groups? White supremacists? Nazi party? KKK ?? Black lives matter? Greenpeace?
     
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    FrankCapua... this website has rules and guidelines... please review them and follow them... the category you posted in, has extra rules and is not for opinion pieces...

    http://www.politicalforum.com/rules.php

    please review rule 11 specifically...

    thank you for helping to save moderators some time, and others looking for news rather than opinions pieces by posting in the correct categories...
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you think these groups pose as much a danger to the US as ISIS? I don't!
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    How many of your mass shootings were done by Muslims?

    There are far more deaths from mass shootings that are NOT religiously motivated (if indeed this one was) than by those which were

    http://timelines.latimes.com/deadliest-shooting-rampages/

    Do we need to continue????
     
  6. FrankCapua

    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bowerbird's examples are tragic examples of failures of our mental health system

    Hardly the same thing as recruitment of ISIS killers.
     
  7. Curmudgeon

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    If you include the radical extremist Christian, Hindu, Buddhist and Jewish Clerics I would agree. It's not any one religious group that is the cause of these acts, but religious fundamentalism itself. When you have the "revealed Truth[SUP]TM [/SUP]and believe it's your duty to bring everyone else into the fold of that truth by whatever means necessary you have become a religious fanatic and a terrorist (or a supporter of terrorism). Christian Dominionists, Hindu and Buddhist fundamentalists are all culpable and need to be taken out.
     
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    It does sound like a good start, but not a means to an end. Like Clinton has proposed, we need to work with technology companies across the country to work on tracking, and reducing ISIS' ability to radicalize lone wolves through social media. Taking out the clerics that promote it is only one piece of the puzzle, you have to combat the technological side as well.
     
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    i dont have much issue with the other religions because they dont produce "radical elements" as much as the muslims do.

    there is a reason that most of the bombings are done by them
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Yes,and it's because they are the religion of the most oppressed peoples in the world.

    Christianity started that way, and was eventually the victor, incorporating the Roman Empire into themselves. The Romans were then the most martial religion in the world. Expanding by the sword for the next 700 years

    What we are doing with the people in the ME now is beyond stupid. Instead of seeing them as. like ourselves, the VICTIMS of the terrorists we are treating them as if they ARE the terrorists, and thus driving them to become terrorists. Conservatives are so in love with hate they would rather screw themselves than ever stop hating someone or start hating more. But why should we sane people let a minority of psychotics destroy us along with themselves
     
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    If the "victims of terrorists" were really against the violence we would see a lot more of them turn the terrorists in.
     
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    You think sane people join ISIS?
     
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    Most terrorist attacks in Europe and the US are NOT perpetrated by Muslims. Sorry if the facts don't fit your paranoia.
     
  14. Bowerbird

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    Yeo! If they have a name like Mohammed then they are a MOOSLIM TERRORIST but if they have a name like John Baptist they are "Lone Wolf Radicals"

    Gotcha!!

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    They do - you just do not see that in the news because it is not sensational enough
     
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    This is not the Current Events BB. I don't get your criticism.
     
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    because a moderator has now moved it from the other category, understand the criticism now?
     
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    yet the attacks they cause do the most damage :)
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Do you know who are the incipient terrorists in your religion? Or your neighborhood association or any other thing you're in? Terrorists are, first and foremost CRIMINALS, they tend rather strongly NOT to have their meetings scheduled in the Mosque bulletin
     
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    yet they still interact with people. Yes I do know the dodgy people in my church.
     
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    You don't get it, do you? The Islamic TEXTS THEMSELVES are the problem - if those texts didn't call for Jihad, death to apostates, etc, then clerics would arguably not teach that in the first place, and if they tried then their students would say "where the hell is that in the texts, I don't see that."

    They don't blindly follow a crazed cleric.....they follow a crazed prophet.
     
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    Yes. Sane, VERY RELIGIOUS, loyal-to-Mohammad holy warriors. They just understand Islam more than the moderate Muslims do, they take the Islamic texts at their word more, take the promise of the 72 virgins for killing infidels more seriously than the moderate Muslims do.

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    They are very sane - before they take sex slaves they make sure that this is approved by Islam (which it is.)
     
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    I say Islam has had 28,000+ terrorist attacks (at thereligionofpeace.com)....so now you show us specifically how many terrorist attacks other religious groups have committed in that same post 9/11 time period. The person who can source their numbers is of course the winner. Ready, go!
     
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    What makes you say that? How do you think they advertise their meetings?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJk_AiK-4No

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQCsYLjJhN0
     
  24. FrankCapua

    FrankCapua Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your "John Baptist" is not the result or goal of a sophisticated network that unfortunately many of the acts of your "Mohammed" are.

    Of course there are terrible acts committed by non-Muslims, but they are not produced by a world-wide recruitment system.
     
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    Utter nonsense, this is like saying we should true the common cold the same way we treat the Bubonic plague.
     

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