Can anyone here claim Russian hacking influenced their vote

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  1. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need to look up the meaning of landslide champ. Until then, keep jerking yourself off....Recent landslide elections include, Johnson in 1964, Nixon in 1972, Reagan in 1984 and Bush in 1988. Since then most elections have been fairly close. Obama's two victories were close to landslides but do not really qualify as such and his electoral college victory margins were far greater than the close win by Trump.
     
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    9/11 was cause of Bill.
     
  3. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    :lol: Sure you did.
     
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    And the US invented the Air Plane, but once the device showed its usefulness in war, we started to keeping our designs classified. Yes, Powell had one, but they realized how bad of a idea that was and changed the procedure of how to keep them secure. Kind of like how military isn't allowed thumb drives on their comp now after the gay army private took a bunch of stuff off the secure computers and gave them to wikileaks.

    Cause....shes above the law. Glad she wasn't a closet terrorist who was sneaking classified info out to her foreign donors....oh that's right, she did.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup - Democrats are going through the same thing Republicans went through in 2008.

    The question is can Democrats learn humility or will they double-down on their arrogance? So far, a lot of them aren't willing to listen to the message that voters are sending them.

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    Lol, I think the reason why the Democrats are so upset is because Soros and the Dems hacked the voting machines to ensure Hillary would win, and then the Russians hacked the Dem's hacking. Two robbers at the same bank, and the Russians made off with the loot.
     
  7. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong again champ. Those 7 investigations into Benghazi found no evidence suggesting that Secretary Clinton was responsible for the deaths of those four US foreign service workers. If you would read the final reports you would know that, but you seem to be just another dupe who gets his information and world view from partisan hacks like Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.
     
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    Being parochial and deliberately and defiantly ignorant of the world around you doen't make you any smarter that the last guy was.

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    This claim is completely false.
     
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    Yes, it could.
     
  10. Evmetro

    Evmetro Active Member Past Donor

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    Where do you see a claim?
     
  11. CurrentsITguy

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    My background is in International Studies, so I am hardly "parochial". I simply subscribe to the view that Sovereign Nations dealing with one another on a one to one basis is a far more effective means of managing world affairs. I simply do not see what purpose the UN serves. They are ineffective in their stated mission, and are woefully riddled with corruption.
     
  12. TomFitz

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    Non sequiter.

    The Russians did not hack her e-mail server.
     
  13. TomFitz

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    If your background is in international studies, you must have slept through all of your classes. You certainly didn't learn any history.

    No one with any real background in international studies would be an advocate of isolationism, nor would they make the kind of parochial claim that you did.
     
  14. TomFitz

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    Is that why all you right winger cling to false stories long after they have been discredited, and why all of you bray whatever code word and talking point alt right media feeds you?

    And is that why Trump supporters believe by wide margins, that unemployment is rising, that deficits are rising, and that Donald Trump won the popular vote, even though all these things are false.

    Is that why so many of you fall for fake news?

    It seems to me that people who think wouldn't fall for this stuff. But you do.....over and over again.

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    Right here, These are your exact words:

    And it is false.
     
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    Where did I even even hint at isolationism? I merely stated that a body that is full of graft and corruption is not the best forum for nations to resolve differences. If we, for example have an issue with Nation X then it would be best if we dealt directly with Nation X either diplomatically or, in the event of some egregious behavior on the part of Nation X, militarily. We are always free to assemble an ad hoc international coalition to support us in our endeavors. IMHO that is the exact opposite of isolationism.

    Considering the US, other than actual Treaties, recognizes no authority supreme to the Constitution, there seems little point in deferring to a transnational body since there is no legally binding basis to do so.
     
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    Evmetro Active Member Past Donor

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    I see you manipulated my "exact words", to remove any hint of humor. Do you see what came before "I think"? Even if you had not conveniently removed the "Lol", which suggested that this was humor, "I think" is still nothing even close to a claim.

     
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    To be fair reading her emails did help solidify my vote for Trump. Before her emails were revealed I had already decided to vote against her. I was going to vote for Gary Johnson but then he turned into a weirdo so I didn't know what to do. After reading those emails I realized more than ever that I didn't want her to be president. I then took another look at Trump and decided he was a good man and so I voted for him. I did have, and still do have my doubts that he'll be a good president. I'm hoping he'll surprise me and he's doing okay so far.

    I lived in Lancaster Pennsylvania at the time and most of the other Trump supporters I talked to didn't mention the emails. They said they voted for Trump because he seemed to care about the working class. Where as Clinton only campaigned in Philadelphia and seemed to make white working class men out to be nothing more than racist and bigots.
     
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    I actually declared loyalty to Hillary early in the game, when the primaries were just getting started. It was my hardcore progressive (feel the bern) friends that slammed hillary so bad that by the time she had the nomination I was against her. I was always against trump not for any specific reason except that I think he's a certified azhole.

    Therefore by default, I voted for Johnson even though he was a terrible candidate as well but at least I didn't hate him.
     
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    How would you know which righty talking points come from where, if you limit your media consumption to what is fed to you by the lefty media? Anything that sounds righty is automatically "alt right"? Remember, I know all of the righty talking points AND all of the lefty talking points, since I don't limit my media consumption to what suits my confirmation bias.
     
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    So where did the leak of her emails come from?
     
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    Here is a map by counties. A second grader can tell you that Hillary got creamed!

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  22. Wildjoker5

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    I can also spot all the places with the highest crime and lowest income rates by county too from just this map. Its kind of like an overlay of 3 maps in one.
     
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    Empty land does not signify anything but empty land. The sad truth is that the people no longer believe they elect our President. The sad truth is that many of us believe that our vote should count more than another citizens vote. The equal protection clause is apparently useless here to protect us from the tyranny of the minority.
     
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    White supremacist much? lol. The exact reasons we are a constitutional republic and not a democracy is because the founders didn't want mob rule, or 50.1% oppressing the 49.9%. Sorry if you believe the capital should rule the 12 other districts because they have the largest population combined, but you are not superior to anyone else.
     
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    There are plenty of precocious second graders who grasp that receiving 2.6 million more votes is not "getting creamed", of course, but that has nothing to do with surrendering to Russia manipulating a US election.

    This is not a petty, partisan issue for prissy boys to snivel about. It has serious implications for the nation's security and the inviolability of its democratic processes.

    Maintaining the integrity of US elections is far too important to allow Trump cultists who now claim that it's not "pc" to prevent us from uncovering the truth.

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