US arming terrorists

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Some serious swamp draining needs to be done. This includes in the Pentagon, CIA, NSA and so on.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ISIS is recruiting anyone who shares their lust for global Jihad.
     
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    I think it goes a little deeper then that. That's how they "enticed" Americans to join them. Notice that isn't going on now. You rarly here of Isis now days. Just thinking it ties into the US support. You ever see the pic of plummer truck that became an Isis as gun? How'd that get from Texas to Isis?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think that indeed it probably does go a little deeper - but - that was not the thrust of my post. We can get into the why's and wherefor's of Syrian Conflict (Desire of the international banks/financiers to have continued war and finance both sides - to have continued war to continue making money off of the defense contractors they own - to continue deficits so they can make interest off of that debt - to use the media that they own to promote their interests ... and so on)

    The point I was getting at was how the media (owned by aforementioned international financiers= establishment) has become a complete puppet of the establishment.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was "news" then and it is news now. Just as the mainstream media covered it up then, they are doing the same now.

    The difference here though is that the "terrorists - death squad dictators and so on" in the past had not attacked the US.

    It is the fact that Al Qaeda attacked america directly and that Al Qaeda is constantly named as a huge enemy of the US that makes this news much bigger.

    That Obama/Hillary were arming Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, ISIS, and similar of that ilk is big news - it is just "unmentionable news" for the moment.
     
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    US governments have been supporting terrorists (or freedom fighters, it really depends which label looks better at what point in time) for decades. This pattern is not really new in US foreign policies.
    IME, it usually takes years until these things see the light of day and are published here and there.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am aware of previous support for death squad dictators and so on. Supporting a group that the US has itself labeled enemy number 1, the same group that did 911 is something different.
     
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    USA has always been arming terrorists. Suffice it to recall Nicaragua. The CIA does it. Obama is just a pawn in the hands of intelligence agencies, corporations, etc.
     
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    Your presidential election couldn't possibly have come at a more critical time, and the best man won it. What an absolute disaster Obama has been, and good riddance to him now.
     
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    One could say that.
    To me it's more like a different aspect of the same foreign policies.
    Sometimes, as you say, a dictator is supported, sometimes a democratically elected president is removed because the White House doesn't like him and a right-wing fascist dictator is put into power, sometimes elections are manipulated, sometimes certain groups are encouraged to stir up turmoil, etc.
    The creation of what later turned into the Taliban was probably indeed a new quality.
     
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    The war against ISIS is fake? Now the war against Iraq which created ISIS was clearly a fraud but it is hard to follow what concievable logic you could use to think the war against ISIS is fake.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Assad is a supporter of individual rights and freedom? Which planet are you on?
     
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    Was that weapons the US supplied to the Iraqui army?
     
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    Where is there proof that the US is arming terrorists in that collection of articles. Which one are we supposed to read?
     
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    The documentary which is what I'm referring to (in the link- Syria at war) is an 1+ hour documentary on Netflix. It's not a collection of articles...
     
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    The mainstream media is fed narratives by the government and they don't investigate for themselves, but trust the source... 0bama and Hillary should join Bush Jr. & Cheney on the gallows. They all need to be tried for the stunts they've pulled in the ME, for the misery and deaths they've helped bring about. Our "leaders" should be held to account.
     
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    Remember Ronnie Raygun's "freedom fighters" in Afghanistan and also his arming a Contra army in Nicaragua? Heck of a job. Mission accomplished.
     
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    The magic of "classified" information. It's a get out of jail free card for the guilty.
     
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    That's why we don't win. That's why are air strikes don't drop bombs. Instead we supply them. ISIS is the Obama's proxy army he made. They didn't exist till he choose to pull out of Iraq. Every innocent life they take, the blood is on the hands of The Obama and his supporters. I'm sure Israel will be letting everyone know just how involved with ISIS we really are soon.

    ISIS, the JV team, wasn't supost to be anything to worry about. Do you really believe The Obama wants to defeat ISIS?

    ISIS enemies

    white men
    Russia
    Christians
    Jews

    Obama enemies

    white men
    Russia
    Christians
    Jews
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Taliban, Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, Islamic Front, ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab and numerous others- All share the same Saudi inspired extremist militant Islamist ideology that Saud has been exporting around the world for decades. By far and away the number one supporter and exporter of Terror and extremism.

    Oh ... but Saud is our good buddy. Far be it for us to criticize those folks.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Far more than the opposition. Don't blame me for your ignorance.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aside from the State Department admitting to supporting the rebel opposition. (The "moderate rebel" lie is just a diversion for the ignorant)

    Did you not read the OP. Do you think Rep: Tulsi Gabbard just woke up one morning and make up the story that the US has been supporting extremists?

    Did you not read this or is it that you think she is lying ? It is not like this is something new or Tulsi is the only one saying such things.


    Virginia Senator Richard Black ?

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/virgin...ad-for-saving-the-lives-of-christians/5384338

    How about Rand Paul on CNN's Sunday morning news program "State of the Union" back in the summer of 2014.

    http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2...-my-son-into-that-mess-on-the-crisis-in-iraq/

    None of this is actually needed if one understands what the war in Syria is about. The State department has admitted supporting the rebel opposition. The problem is that what they do not tell you is that the rebel opposition are united in their desire for Strict Sharia Theocracy in Syria. That is what the whole "call to Jihad" is about"

    The rebels hate "secularism". They hate individual rights and freedoms and want to force their extremist religious beliefs on others through violence. They want strict sharia theocracy to be the law of the land/political system.

    The "moderates" are the ones fighting for Assad - those who do not want Strict Sharia extremism.

    The main rebel groups in Syria were Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, Islamic Front and similar of the same ilk. These were the groups that were armed to the teeth by major nation states (Saud, Turkey in conjunction with the US and others) in 2011.

    In short order they took over much of Syria. It was then that members of these groups broke off and decided to set up a Caliphate (IS- Islamic State - ISIL/ISIS).

    This is how the modern incarnation of ISIS was formed. In 2013 is when the dog that the US - in conjunction with Saud, Turkey and others - created got off its leash and moved into Iraq. This is when the "moderate rebel lie" became necessary to cover tracks.

    This Elephant in the room is bursting out of it's seams. "Everyone" - as in everyone who has any knowledge of the region knows this reality and knows that the mainstream media has been working overtime trying to cover it up.

    As soon as Obama is out of office the chains will come off (similar to when Bush left office) and the story will be allowed to be told mainstream.

    It was Obama/Hillary and fellow clowns (including GOP establishment- and aforementioned Countries) that are responsible for the 400,000 dead, the refugee crisis and the modern incarnation of ISIS.

    Do feel free to ask for more ! It is not like it is some big secret.
     
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    Them Ain't Terrorist,

    They Be Freedom Fighters.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL Yeah ... fighting for the freedom to force their extremist Strict Sharia Theocracy on others through physical violence and terror.
     
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    Or the recognized, legitimate government of Syria.

    How well did that work out in Libya and Iraq. Or a Russian speaker in the nation of Ukraine?
    Egypt, after a democratic loss got a replay with the military.

    Tell me more about those bad people we are fighting, and who created the worst of them!
    And where was American Intelligence as Islamic State was becoming a military force?
    Terming them Freedom Fighters I betchya.

    Was it really just, "Stupid Is As Stupid Does"
    or favoring some profit driven friends?​


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g
    Enslaves foreign nations
    and individuals too.



    :nana: :flagcanada:
     
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    Perhaps. But far more likely that this is the weapon that was supplied with "moderate opposition" in Syria.
     

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