Israel announces plan to create 2,500 settlements in Palestinian-controlled territory

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  1. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The West Bank is not Israel. The Palestinians there do not have the rights that Israeli citizens have. They have no rights to vote on whether they want this or that. They are held under martial law and have been for 60 years.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so let Israel annex Area C and offer all the Arabs who live there, citizenship.
     
  3. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you hate each and every Arab country in the region for kicking Jews out (all of them) and expropriating their land and belonging?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the Jews of Israel are welcome to return to their former homes in the Muslim world.
     
  5. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No? Now I'm confused - who's land does Israel occupy? Palestinian or Jordanian? Is there any difference?
     
  6. lemmiwinx

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    If the West Bank is such a paradise for Muslims why aren't rich Saudis or Iranians buying up all the land? Which bring up the question aren't the Jews paying the owners for the land they're building on?

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    This does not mean that the WB does not belong to Israel.

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    Israel occupies Israeli land.
    It used to belong to Jordan,, but Jordan gave up its claim and, by treaty, ceded the land to Israel.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh?

    This is what wiki says on the subject:

    The reasons for the exodus included push factors, such as persecution, antisemitism, political instability,[15] poverty[15] and expulsion...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_and_Muslim_countries

    The (*)(*)(*)(*) welcome they are :)
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know that.
     
  10. alexa

    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I suspect you know nothing about it. Living under occupation and military rule including children for sixty years while your land is colonised against article 4 of the Geneva convention is no fun.....And generally speaking no they do not pay for the land they illegally build on.
     
  11. lemmiwinx

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    Oh I see it's like cowboys and Indians in the 21st century, Jews are rounding up Palestinians and forcing them on reservations. Why aren't we getting any real time video of this?
     
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    name the treaty whereby Jordan gave the West Bank to Israel.

    cause I know this is a lie so I want to see you back up your claim.
     
  13. alexa

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    I think you are ill informed. As a reminder this is mentioned within the recent resolution 2334

    http://www.un.org/webcast/pdfs/SRES2334-2016.pdf

    There you go. The settlements are in contradiction of the Fourth Geneva Convention and this has been accepted by the US up till now. I am aware that Trumpettes wish to go against International Law with Israel. Their choice. They are though going to find themselves very isolated.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can't be bothered if this is you r level of debate. This is just trolling.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't see why West Bankers couldn't decide to join the modern world and quit seeing themselves as victims. I'm sure a lot of them make a nice life for themselves.

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    No it does not. It is not recognised as Israel. It is the land which comprises 22% of historic Palestine which was agreed would be the Palestinian State in the Oslo talks. It is around half of the land which the UN designated for an Arab State when she designated the largest part of Palestine (56%) to the Jewish State who were at the time 1/3rd of the population, the vast majority of them very recent immigrants.

    It is not Israel. If it were to become part of Israel that would mean that it is currently a state living under apartheid where the indigenous people have no rights. Many people will admit that this is reality. Hence the need is to get the Palestinians the same rights as other people living on the land. Many Palestinians now believe that is the only outcome due to the way Israel has already taken over land but as you will see from resolution 2334 which I put in, the UN is still hoping for a two state solution.
     
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    What Israel is doing.. what Israel has done is criminal.. and you don't even know why.
     
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    I'm at the point alexa, where I'm gonna make an effort to acquire all the UN decisions, edicts, proclamations and resolutions and come up with some-extra perverted way to destroy them just a little, so the next day I can destroy them some more. Useless they are, and UN bias to Israel makes them doubly so.

    There.
     
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    I may be ignorant but every time I see violence or intolerance in the region it's mostly Arabs/Muslims doing it not Jews. I'm open to discussion but that's how I see it.
     
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    The Palestinians have no voice.. They haven't had a voice since 1920.. Read Benny Morris.
     
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    I had no idea I was replying to you! Sure, get all the UN decisions and what not. Then you will find that your way is well against law. It will be really nice seeing you do some research. Might not be so much fun for you though ;)
     
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    funny, as the Israeli Supreme Court says that the West Bank is under the jurisdiction of the 4th Geneva Conventions and the 1907 Hague regulations, which set laws for Occupied Territory.

    just admit it, international law is not on your side
     
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    The WB belongs to Israel.
    There is no occupation.
    The Geneva convention does not apply.
     
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    This is all false and you have been shown this. No point in further conversation if you are stating as truth your desires and not reality.
     
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    They send their kids out strapped with bombs how the heck can anyone justify that?
     
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