China bans Muslim baby names... beards... burkhas

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-burqa-islam-jihad-human-rights-a7700646.html

I wonder why the communist dictatorship has seen fit to crack down on Muslims in this fashion. Granted, there is no such thing as religious freedom in China, or freedom of speech, or freedom of expression, or freedom of the press... But I wonder why they specifically singled out Muslims. And I also wonder if some of our more "progressive" members of the forum are going to call them racists. And I also wonder if some of our more "conservative" colleagues will criticize them for infringing religious practices.

 

Not me. I hope East Asia learns from the "progressive" mistakes that the West is engaging in and keep their populations as homogenous as possible. Some race has to keep humanity going, and I don't think it's going to be Arabs, blacks, or Hispanics.

 

China wants to decrease the prevalence of what it considers to be "dangerous ideologies".

The question is then "Is Islam a dangerous ideology" ?

 

I don't know. What usually follows when you're at a public market in Pakistan and someone stands in the middle of a crowd and yells Allah Akbar at the top of their lungs?

 

The CPC considers any idea, movement, or mass group of people that could potentially displace it to be dangerous. Look at their treatment of Falun Gong for example. Typically, the party tolerates (but closely monitors) religious practices up to the point that they could threaten their absolute authority over all things.

 

LOL ... OK .. but give me some more content.

If there is a dangerous ideology that leads people to do such things - should we not more specifically identify'define what these dangerous ideologies are ... and support efforts to stop their proliferation ?

 

We need to examine what we define as a "religion" and a "dangerous cult".

 

I agree with you but, there is more to the story here. The party consider's some religious ideologies a danger to the social order for different reasons than other movements.

Some of these reasons I would agree with ... others I would not. The question here is what is it about this ideology (Islam) in particular that the CPC consider's dangerous.

 

They're only banning it in one province, from what the article suggests.

Also when there's no freedom of religion, speech, expression, press or much else along those lines that can hardly be seen as progressive. By the way, China emits the most CO2 in the atmosphere out of all nations.

I just thought I'd point that out.

And what exactly is the retard delegation of white nationalists doing to keep humanity going?

 

Keep in mind that the Uyghur (Islamic Chinese) people are essentially Han (Asiatic) who simply follow the Islamic faith. Most Chinese are either atheist or Buddhist. There is a small contingent of Confucianism, Judaism, and Christianity as well - both surprisingly tolerated. In fact, there is a giant Catholic Cathedral right in the heart of Beijing on WangFuJing Street, one of the city's most promenant boulevards, and only a stone's throw from The Great Hall of the People (home of the CPC).



Understand, the party monitors every church service and I am told that each sermon must be submitted to the Ministry of Culture for approval... but the party does permit the services to go on. There are actually 3 or 4 Catholic churches and at least two synogogues in Beijing alone. Shanghai has even more - being home to the largest expat community in China.

 

That is the province where the majority of the Uyghur population are concentrated. But knowing China as I do (lived there for three years), this rule will apply across the country.

I suppose that's open to debate. Some might say that is the textbook definition of progressivism. That said, I don't recall anyone in this thread calling China a progressvie nation.

Probably true. But completely irrelevant to this discussion.

Why? Do you want to derail the thread? Please let's stay on topic.

 

A few hundred million would say so, if they could.

 

White nationalists are simply whites who want the white race to exist in the future by having some sort of homeland, like every other race has. Whites arguably been the greatest advancers of humanity in history, with most of that progress coming in the last few centuries. East Asians will likely be the next to pick up the torch, if whites becoming minorities in every country where they hold the majority. They aren't known for being too generous with blacks, btw. Maybe Jews can convince them to be, in the future. We will see.

 

Is there anything particularly threatening about Uyghur Chinese? Is that region incredibly dangerous?

But I do recall some suggesting this move is a step in the right direction.

Most definitely true, and like I said I included it because I wanted to.

 

How about Greenland? It's completely white.

 

yes, some Christians, Jewish and Muslims sects could qualify as cults

I think banning violent cults is ok, but not banning an entire religion because some in the religion form cults

 

Well Christian cults and Jewish cults, are not blowing themselves up and tons of people on a daily basis. For every one attack in the name of Jesus Christ you can name me in the last month (if any?), we can show you many, MANY more huge bombings in the name of Allah.

However you are correct. Every religion has their cult within. I was not suggesting "banning" an entire religion. I was however suggesting that this rise in Sharia Law in many Islamic areas of the western world could only lead to negative outcomes.

 

Actually up to 90% of the population is native Inuit. So you are not even close.

 

I wasn't talking about the people.....

 

China has very little violent crime. As a colleague of mine once joked "China has no crime... because you get the death penalty for everything." That said, there are occasional attacks similar to the truck attacks we have seen recently where people will drive into a crowd, and I do know of at least one failed bombing attempt at Tien'AnMan Square. In all cases, the perpetrators are identified as Uyghur. As with all things China, it is impossible to really know because the government runs the media. I do believe there is a small but growing radical element in the Uyghur community.

Please let's stick to the topic. If you want to discuss China's CO2 emissions, you can start a new thread.

 

Alright, that was pretty funny.

 

Oh, so your response didn't make any sense, then. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

He likely mistakenly thought the population of Greenland was white, and found a way to escape his error. Wouldn't be the first time.

 

So really, unless the government releases anything the Uyghur community is fundamentally no different than anyone else.

 

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