Is Islam a sexist religion?

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Is Islam, if properly understood, sexist by our 2016 definition?

  1. No.... not at all.

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  2. Yes... obviously!

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  3. No more sexist than Christianity as explained by Paul.

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  4. A sexist understanding of Islam is a misunderstanding.

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dunno. I always thought 'sexist' denoted some form of surreptitious coercion; one gender manipulating the other via psychological or social means. And while that certainly applies to Islam, Islam takes it to a whole different level by literally enslaving women as livestock.

    But maybe my understanding of the term 'sexist' isnt quite accurate.
     
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    If we got rid of all the obnoxious people, who would run Breitbart or Stormfront?
     
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    No, you make a very valid point. Sexist is the understatement of the century!
     
  4. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    True.....



    ANTIFA Organizer Runs Off And Marries Muslim Man, Begs To Come Home After Receiving THIS Brutal Wedd
     
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    And I would like to think that one by one......
    concept by concept.... step by step......
    we right wing Christians are making a few
    improvements partly due to our being confronted
    with some astonishing truths through near death experience
    accounts.


    Sincere apologies for taking 5 years to understand NDE comments on Gay Community!


    http://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/christian-andreason.html#a11

     
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    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    Huh? I don't see any Christians hanging gays, stoning women, or being doomy-gloomy..:)
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Apostle Paul was only human......
    the culture that he was raised in affected his writings.......
    He was working on becoming better and better over the years
    and decades of his teaching ministry..........

    There is evidence that by the time he was in Rome.... near the end of his life.....
    his attitude had softened in many ways from those days when he
    had such simplistic ideas on the role that women played in the
    first century Messianic Jewish and Messianic Gentile communities.

    Pastor Rick Joyner meets Apostle Paul in visionary dream of heaven....
     
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    Dropship Well-Known Member

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    You've been swallowing too much anti-christian propaganda mate..:)
    Early Christian churches were being disrupted by some noisy women who were using them like coffee morning drop-in centres, so Paul had to lay down some ground rules and tell them to shut their traps!
    Elsewhere he has no beef at all with sensible women and paid them these glowing tributes-
    "I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church in Cenchrea..she has been a great help to many people, including me..
    Greet Priscilla , my fellow worker in Christ Jesus, she risked her life for me.
    Greet Mary, who worked very hard for you..
    Greet Tryphena and Tryphosa and Persis, those women who work hard in the Lord.
    Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord, and his mother, who has been a mother to me, too.
    Greet Julia.." (Romans ch 16)

    And he reminds us -
    "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28 )
    Right girls?..:)-


    Church of England women clergy-

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  9. notme

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    Christianity/Judaism does say:
    If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
     
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    Jesus never said a word about GLBT's one way or the other, not a single word..:)
    Your quote is from the Old Testament, but if God wanted us to stick with the Old T, he wouldn't have sent Jesus to give us the New..:)
    And people quickly realised-
    "The covenant of which Jesus is mediator is superior to the old one" (Hebrews 8:6)
     
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    Oh that is widely regarded to be covered with Mark 7:20-23. And because of that the Christians linked homosexuality as bad as pedophilia. There were adds published on tv in the US about that. And Christian African countries still apply this version.
     
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    This is what Jesus said according to the dear old King James Version-
    "..out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders.. (Mark 7:21)
    Fornication is sex between a man and women outside marriage, nothing to do with gays/lesbians unless people interpret it that way.
     
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    You can rant all you want. But it remains the fact that this is brought in, and Christians, the more hardline they go, the more hostile they get towards gay/lesbians.
     
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    Nobody minds nice decent gays/lesbians, it's only the loud militant ones who get on people's wicks..:)
    For example one loud militant gay community used to go round hammering on peoples doors demanding that the men be sent out so they could have them, so God zapped them (Sodom/Gomorrah).
     
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    Except people who follow a strict version of a Abrahamic religion. They are all alike.
     
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    Please note that the notion that homosexuality was the cause of the problem in those cities is a popular but incorrect myth taught in the Judeo-Christian tradition. Sodom's evils were based on economic injustices in which it exploited the poor: Ezekiel 16:48 et seq

    Also see Luke 17:26 et seq where the evils that took place were the same as those "in the day of Noah" where fallen angels engaged in sex with human females. This conduct was the sexual abomination that was condemned.
     
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    Ta-da! You should be on the stage mate, that's yet another consp-theory being pulled out of the hat..:)

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    ^ thought you would use a tin hat instead ;)
     
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    I do not know what your concept of Heaven is, but I will say this. Heaven is a mental construct (concept) just as Hell is as well. In addition, the variation of what Heaven is and what Hell is is so vast because it is dependent on what the individual deems pleasant and torturous.
    As to women ruling, this also depends upon the customary traditions of people. As I made clear in one of my posts, there is no equality between male and female, Men and Women which is natural being that a Man is not a Woman and a Woman is not a Man. I know in the decline of Occidental societies, it is common accepted folklore that Men and Women are equal which is preposterous. As a song by the band Live states in the chorus, "It's a crazy crazy mixed up town, it's the rattlesnake I fear."
     
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    Ronstar,
    It is normal and natural for women to not have authority over men. Such a practice of women having authority over men, is not only unnatural, but it leads to the people who fall under this practice, as subject to another people. Plus, when this is established, the females tend to produce unproductive boys, which is the birth of many internal problems that bleed onto the larger society that supports such a dastardly plan.
     
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    One of my favorite bands:
     
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    I will tell you that coming from my perspective and experience, homosexuals are perverts and have no regard for other peoples sensibilities. I for one, detest the practice of homosexuality and am completely disturbed by another male having sexual interests in me. No where in Creation do you find homosexual behavior. If you are thing f the primates, e.g., moneys, apes, baboons, and gorillas, these animals are abominations. For a male to have sexual desires for another male is evidence that another pervert in that person's life, most likely when they were a child, has tampered with said child. Knowing this, I take the stance that those who support homosexuality are either homosexual themselves, or they support pederasty.
     
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    From what I have read of near death experience accounts......
    heaven seems to have higher and higher and higher levels......

    Dr. George Ritchie may have viewed ninth dimensional space - time.....
    which might correspond with the sixth heaven....????

    http://www.near-death.com/science/research/city-of-light.html
     
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    You write in such a way AlifQadr.... that I kind of suspect that
    you are being quite sarcastic........
    if so.....
    Kudos......

    If on the other hand you are being serious.......
    well......

    In the Beginning... was Super Strings and Super Waves/ Super Energetic Matter!
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    I am not being sarcastic about homosexuality and those who defend that behavior. What I did not add was why this government (U.S. Federal) and the lower governments of these United States promote homosexuality and other behavioral types that are not congruent with the civic responsibility of defending and maintaining Freedom in its true sense and Liberty which is attached to said Freedom. These reasoning has to do with attention diversion. When the populace is concentrating on sexual proclivities instead of maintaining the Freedoms and Liberties that are God Given, meaning they cannot be taken away, governments have a tendency of abridging those Freedoms and Liberties. The society and nation of the United States has lost so much true freedom and true liberty, until it is unbelievable. I know for a fact of the loss of these Freedoms and Liberties comparing life as it was when I was a child and what my older relatives have told me. Some of the people have given away those freedoms for some bogus sense of security. As Benjamin Franklin stated, "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." America is a literal police state because some people are afraid of others, so we have a Police State where the cops have inordinate "authority" which is an outright effrontery to Freedom and Liberty. I hate cowards because those bastards are a direct assault on to Freedom, Liberty, and Justice.
     
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