Per year in America http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-20/guns-kill-nearly-1300-children-in-the-us-each-year/8635174 Cue the excuses 1) it is only the third largest killer 2) They are all gang related violence (ie poor black democrat) 3) the study included teenagers not children 4) the study is wrong 5) they were all killed by people who shot them in self defence 6) If they had had a gun they would not have been shot 7) but you want to take away MY guns And of course the NRA excuse MORE GUNS!!
Ah you are back with more emotional tugging.... http://reason.com/blog/2017/06/20/cnn-report-on-children-killed-by-guns-em Same ol', same ol' left grease... 'if only one....' Let's see, 1,300 and how many acceptable abortions?
Not to mention some lefties are calling for mothers to have the right to kill their kids up till 2 y/o if they are burdened too much. Whats funny is there is nothing that will stop criminals from getting their guns and killing other kids in drive-bys in the liberal cities with the biggest gun control laws in the US. Just, "Some one think about the children..." crap.
What we really need is more good guys with guns. Yeah, I know it hasn't worked so far. The US has way more good guys with guns than other developed nations and also way more gun violence and murder. But if we just keep increasing the number of good guys with guns it will all magically work out somehow.
Whatever happens, adopting barbaric concepts from Australia should be the last thing America does. Anyway, is there a link to the actual study or just some idiot's parsed and spliced opinion about the study? Is nobody else concerned that the CDC is wasting valuable tax dollars on inanimate objects when there are diseases like Zika, HIV, AIDS, and others that should be their primary interest?
The information available on the CDC website is not specific enough to verify the claim -- it includes a 15-19yr age group, and does not note how many of those 15-19yr olds are 18-19yr old adults. As far as actual children, those 0-14yrs old, 1999-2015, 433/yr die from gunshot. 68 accidents, 98 suicides, 255 homicides, and 12 'other'
Here's the actual CDC WISQARS seachable database. Should take you under 30 seconds to run your own "study". https://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate.html
Thank you for that information. The problem I see is some foreign interloper quoting an article about a study and trying to influence American politics on a matter in which they have no stake in the game and no reason to be honest or truthful. We've seen time and again that the anti-gun crowd mislead and outright lie to push their insidious agenda against our Constitutional rights. I still am upset that valuable resources are being used by the CDC to study anything outside of real diseases with biological basis, as there are many of them and they pose a greater risk to America and the world than all the guns in the world ever could...
She only serves to further prove that the anti-gun side can only argue from fallacious appeals to emotion, ignorance and/or dishonesty. As rational reasoned and thinking people are not swayed by such arguments, the more she bleats, the less likely we are to see any of the restrictions she supports.
But hey - lets look at this like it's - not - a fallacious appeal to emotion. 1300/year = 3.56/day. For every gun involved in the death of a "child" in the US today, 101,000,000 were not. I'd like to see the decision tree that inputs this fact and spits out "need more gun control".
They are not excuses when they are factual. Which is correct. When it comes to unintended deaths, there are causes that result in far higher body counts. Less than four deaths a day is, statistically, not a significant issue to get worked up about. Which is correct. A significant number of deaths occur in major urban areas that already have significant firearm-related restrictions in place, and are committed by minority individuals engaged in criminal behavior. If they are not killing each other and themselves, they are killing innocent bystanders in drive by incidents, because they hold no regard for human life. Which is correct. If teenagers involved in gang activity were not counted, the numbers would be significantly lower. Is there evidence to prove that such is not the case?
other than being part of an international anti American movement, why do foreigners want to get rid of our rights> Is it Aesop's tail-deprived fox or something more sinister? other than gun bans, the anti rights coalition has no response to what should be done. they whine about the deaths to smear gun owners and our rights
It depends on the poster. Bowerbird is supposedly in the medical industry and may have sincere intentions, but little understanding of reality outside a Pollyanna bubble. Her arguments remind me of my Ex's, she was a Quaker that thought she could fix the fellow from Belfast... she often referred to the movie 'the Angel and the Badman'. Funny though, her father, a Quaker and a Korean War fighter ace, kept a .45 cal 1911 which was supposed to be unknown to both my and his wife.... he felt a duty to defend the home in violation to his religious beliefs. My frequent comment to my wife was there is reality and a utopian fantasy that doesn't exist, that only people willing to accept the responsibility for the defense of themselves and those that choose to go unarmed and incapable of self-defense, provide the safety for those unwilling. A bit of a side story, she went with me to Alaska once, out on the trail, after seeing a couple of walking, room size fur rugs, she kept asking me if I was sure my gun could protect us.... funny, I always considered two-legged critters more dangerous than four legged ones. Hmmm.... no longer married... still not fixed.
.. 1) it is only the third largest killer 2) They are all gang related violence (ie poor black democrat) 3) the study included teenagers not children 4) the study is wrong 5) they were all killed by people who shot them in self defence 6) If they had had a gun they would not have been shot 7) but you want to take away MY guns And of course the NRA excuse MORE GUNS!![/QUOTE] I am from N.Y.C. , in a Ghetto type enclave of many high-rise buildings, you have a dense population of people, if you are not a Police Officer, you will not have any Guns. Gun ownership in the Ghetto is very very low. You have Gangs, you have crimes ranging from prostitution, illegal drug sales however, even Gun ownership in the home, is strictly regulated by the New York City Police Department. In those Ghettos, if a person is carrying a Gun, they are either a Police Officer or a criminal. Most injuries or deaths in inner City neighborhoods are from struggles between illegally armed gangs, many children die due to those struggles. How could Gun control help those victims in Areas of very strict Gun control ? Felons engaged in Criminal activites don't care about Gun laws. Then someone in Australia or England etc..... Wonder why so many people die every year....... Gun control is not so simple a matter.
You already know the answer, which is teenage gang members. That's why you tried to list it in your "excuses" column. Please explain to us how teenage gang members, which is a hard and fast reality, is an "excuse". In NYC, for example, teen gang members are responsible for 40% of the firearm fatalities. That's giving, not receiving. There are over 300 gangs in NYC with members ranging in age from 12 to 20. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/teen-gangs-linked-to-40-percent-of-new-york-city-shootings/
The funny thing is her profession kills people at rates orders of magnitude higher than firearms. In the US every year, as many as a million people die from incompetent medical "professionals". In Australia, incompetent medical "professionals" kill hundreds of thousands of people every year. http://www.smh.com.au/national/heal...ng-hundreds-of-thousands-20150218-13irpo.html Maybe she should worry more about that.
Indeed. Especially since gangs are accountable from anywhere from 48% to 90% of the violent crime in any given location. https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/2011-national-gang-threat-assessment
Let's protect even more kids by banning swimming pools. From 2005-2014, there were an average of 3,536 fatal unintentional drownings (non-boating related) annually in the United States — about ten deaths per day.1 An additional 332 people died each year from drowning in boating-related incide
Then what will? This represents a lot of dead and or damaged children almost an epidemic What will keep the children safe?
