Far-right activists detained at UK border before Britain First rally

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  1. Strasser

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    It's a rather bizarre banning, considering they have zero problems with letting in far more violent antisemites who are also huge fans of Adolph Hitler, those wonderful Islamists. Muslims blow up subways and children, the other at worst is going to provoke a few brawls and make some Snowflakes cry and wet themselves.
     
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    Christianity, some forms of it, didn't become dominant in western Europe until after around 1100 A.D. or so, if that early, and that limited mainly to the ruling class families, as a matter of politics, not actual belief.
     
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    Sounds bad, until one looks into what pagans loves to do with the same microscope Christianity is put under. Charlemagne was Mister Rogers compared to the average pagan.
     
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    Well done!
    Who is demanding A = travel ban for Muslims to be safer for terror in name of Islam must take B too = ban for this righty scum who poisons the brains of people with hate, fear, and BS!
     
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    There has never been the right to free speech in the UK, its one of the few things I admire about the US. In my lifetime, I have seen a blasphemy charge in the UK! Thankfully that at least has been repealed.
     
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    Another victim of 'fake news', I see. Next you'll be citing Breitbart along with your other cartoon sources. I do like the ad for the 'tactical gas mask', though. Obviously an item so important that it merits a place on the front page.
     
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    There's nothing remotely 'christian' about the far-right, their ideology or their actions. Hitler's Wehrmacht wore belt buckles bearing the inscription, 'Gott mit uns' (God is with us). I don't recall anything 'christian' about the Nazis either. No, far-right extremism usurping 'god' as their touchstone is about as cynical as Islamist radicals doing the same, and both rely on the ignorance of the uneducated masses for support, just like the EDL, National Front, BNP and others were a magnet for football hooligans, who enjoyed nothing better on a Saturday afternoon than a good fight.
     
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    And this righties know for sure the bible same way good as the terrorist scum knows un-faked content of Koran...
     
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    Here is the caveat from your article.
    "An authority may be allowed to restrict your freedom of expression if, for example, you express views that encourage racial or religious hatred."
    So many of the opinions expressed on this forum would not be allowed on a UK forum, I might very much disagree with those views, but I do respect peoples right to express them.
     
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    I also respect people's right to an education. A pity many members here appear never to have taken advantage of it.
     
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    You throw the word "hate" around as though English is not your first language.

    Many people distrust Muslims, rightly believing there are many problems within the religion and its practitioners, as well as their stance on Gays, marriage, treatment of women and children, and so on. It's disgusting.

    It is clearly a backward religion in every reasonable sense of the word but that doesn't mean Muslims themselves are 'hated'. These people are the victims of Islam, though certainly less so than those people they regularly violate and murder.
     
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    What religion is not backward compared to modern secular thinking?
     
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    If the Brits feel they'll solve their Muslim problem by detaining speakers at the airport it only demonstrates how they're losing the war against freedom of speech and expression. Muslims will call anyone who defies their ideology as 'haters', 'Islamophobes', right wing', Neo-con, and so on but most people understand from the body count, assaults and the riots, just who the villains are in the formerly Great Britain.

    Banning speakers in the age of the Internet only demonstrates the desperation taking place in Britain and the influence militant Muslims are having on the country. This one sided war on freedom and democracy will not continue forever and, eventually, the situation will explode.
     
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    We do not have a Muslim problem here in the UK, we have an Islamist Radical problem, not understanding this, might explain the inaccuracies in your post.
     
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    Why should we allow bigoted hatred, racism and divisiveness to be preached by anyone? With freedom of expression comes responsibility, and part of that responsibility lies in not disseminating hatred just because the law says you can.
     
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    Concord said:
    Not "used to" it enough. Spaniards are among the most anti-Muslim people on the continent.

    Must be the Inquisition peering through the ages.

    Concord said:
    Why? I don't find it necessary to repeat the history of every country every time I talk about a specific facet.

    Southern and Eastern Europeans have deep anti-Muslim tendencies. This is likely to be a continuing source of tension within Europe.

    Merwen:
    I'm certain that's true of many that do not learn from history, including many of our leaders. It's the same school of thought that led to the Gulf oil disaster.

    Concord said:
    What are you learning from history here that you think I'm not?


    Merwen:
    The tendency of elites to oversimplify in order to make the leadership task easier.

    Concord:
    Trying to connect this to the Islamic conquest of Spain or the Inquisition. It's not coming together for me.

    Want to explain?




    IMO you are oversimplifying and denigrating Spaniards (and to a lesser extent Eastern Europeans) for being biased against Muslims while ignoring their probably painful past history with them. You are also casually bringing in the Inquisition/ie implying this is a basic characteristic of the nasty Spaniards. It is muzzy thinking that obviates the need to really look at the Muslim problem in terms of their effect on whole cultures at the same time that it demonizes a whole people (the Spaniards).

    There is a difference between demonizing a people and looking at their effects on other cultures. It is also a much simpler mental task. Where people have good reason for how they feel, that needs to be closely examined, and not cast off as "racist", etc.
     
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    Lol. Mrs. Geller is banned yet you still have almost daily terrorist attacks.

    Ass backwards prioritization.
     
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    For me, it's the rate of incest by population. When over half of a religion is severely inbred, there is an obvious problem with said religion.
     
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    That is probably the significant point. Europe is more of a crossroads than countries like the US, Russia, and China, and the population has learned to be self protective.
     
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    Bigoted hatred, racism and divisiveness is already taking place in Britain, and all of Western Europe for that matter. Why not have an alternative point of view as to the source of all this hatred?

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/74...ate-Allahu-Akbar-Belgrave-Square-London-Syria

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/...s-riot-in-rotherham-where-rape-gangs-ran-wild

    It's clear Islamists don't want any resistance to their coup..
     
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    Because that 'alternative point of view' is preaching and encouraging hatred and violence, and using 'god' as its mentor and guiding principle. Do you find that acceptable?
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-32413502
    Here's a tip; citing far-right sources and right-wing media won't do you any credibility favours-especially the Daily Express!
     
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    Don't feel too bad. Not everything is great here (see Florida). But, at least we have human rights. Of all the EU nations, this is the most shocking one that this could happen. The Brits invented much of what America believes in, but they seem to have forgotten it.
     
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    Yes, I can see how allowing far-right morons to preach hatred and encourage violence is a 'human right' to be applauded.
     
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