Trump Administration is Advancing Class Warfare Against Us

The left does the actual fishing and distributing while the right stands around rationing the means of production and taking all the profits and credit. No kidding.

 

So, the left is incapable of even understanding old proverbs, with a clear message. Neat.

 

By being the ones always fighting against a living wage, raising the minimum wage, workers having any right to collectively bargain, overtime pay, increased sick days, more vacation time, maternity leave, health care and related insurance, retirement benefits, Medicare, Social Security, Food Stamps, Welfare, Unemployment benefits, Holidays and holiday pay, safety upgrades, etc, etc. Sure, it's the Party of the owner class that really gives a crap about everyone else. Did you see that headline "Trump Invites All U.S. Workers To Stay And Play Golf At Trump Owned Facilities Free For An Entire Month!" No? Ah, me neither. Guess he's been too busy lifting things? Oh, I remember, that offer was just for Saudi royal family members.

 

Most of your post is nonsense and not worthy of reply.

But the part I bolded, I have a question for you. How exactly do you think that will work, to have 350 million people visit Trump Golf courses meant for a few dozen at a time? Did you even think that through? If we started today, how many days would it take to get them all through 18 holes? Assuming you put a foursome out on every hole, and assuming it would take 4 hours each, you won't even get those rounds done before Trump dies of old age.

 

"Where free unions and collective bargaining are forbidden, freedom is lost!" - Ronald Reagan

 

Long ago, I used to " judge {all those ridiculously rich} people instead on the content of their character" just as TJ suggests in his splendiferous, holier than thou, know-it-all pomposity. That's how I was raised and schooled and considered it good. You too, I'm sure. Of course no one actually questioned the content of their character. It just wasn't done. Certainly nothing like the content of a poor person's character was regularly questioned. That of a Black person. Hispanic. Native American. A gay person. A single, teenage mother. No, the rich were always special. Fabulous, as Trump seemingly imagines himself and everything he touches. Granted the same unquestioning, religious respect as officials of the church.

So only after granting them all those grandiose, swell thoughts and the global scale benefit of doubt encouraged by practically every influential publication and authority around, decade after decade; having actually met and had to deal with hundreds personally in one capacity or another, having thoroughly studied and deeply considered them... did that that presumption finally, mercifully disappear. Nothing "blind" or "blanket" about it. I now know they are self-deluded and mentally ill as a rule. Many dangerously so. Bonkers. Fruit loops compared to the average. And it all makes perfect sense - as should have been evident from day one.

Their madness is plain to see right here on this forum. The daily fawning and pleading on behalf of the rich that goes on. Who creates that? What causes it? To what end? What's the purpose? Could it be a trickle down effect? You pee on me so I pee on those I see as lower and therefore unworthy? Therefore I (and you) are worthy and they are dirt? Yeah, I think that's about the size of it. In a nutshell.

 

It actually follows heavily left based economic ideas, such as we've seen in Venezuela and Greece.

 

What are you on about? We were speaking about companies planting shills in the work crew, like unions do. I have made no statements against the mere existence of unions. Also, when Reagan said that, he was a paid union employee. Just sayin...

 

Yeah, yeah. We know. You just don't want to actually debate anything.

 

Then your blanket criticism of the left doesn't matter in any meaningful way either.

LOL!! Or help them create a life and income for themselves collectively.

BS. That's an empty accusation so full of holes it's worthless.

BS. That's a gross distortion when we think of work requirements for those who collect most public assistance. But I, specifically, personally, am trying to "teach them to fish" by advocating laws making creation of worker co-ops simpler and are helpful to the process and then facilitate the formation of co-ops, yet you enthusiastically oppose what I do. That strikes me as just a bit hypocritical.

 

Oh REALLY? Check your comments in post #3. - "Unions regularly infiltrate non-union shops with workers who are paid supplemental income, for the goal of converting the workers to the union cause, and forcing a unionization vote in the shop. Don't tell me they don't, my family has been involved in union leadership for generations." That's pretty anti-union in my estimation.

 

Of course not. No rightie ever characterized the poor and needy as "lazy" or "takers" or "freeloaders".

 

And "it" (class warfare) showed up very strongly at the end of the 19th century and in the early years of the 20th century when business tycoons savagely exploited workers and even children.

 

It's a statement of reality. I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. You seem incapable of keeping up, but I will try again. My point is that what's good for the goose, is good for the gander. You seem unable to understand objectivity. If being objective is this foreign to you, that kind of says a lot about you, in my view.

 

The irony of you saying this, instead of making your own argument, is ****ing hilarious.

 

My mother in law loves to forward these chain emails. To sell "class warfare" you need people to mindlessly forward chain emails, post memes, share something that was designed to get others to look at their fellow Americans as enemies.

I suppose there is an opportunity for a productive, polite discussion, but I would need to know what you do for a living first. Care to share?

 

I guess I overstepped my bounds. I forgot that it is only fact if the left makes an accusation of guilt. I didn't say Sanders was guilty of anything. I only made it known that she was being investigated. Is that allowed comrade?

 

I don't see the relevance, but I'm a retired software developer. The quotes I posted are news items. I added the comments about the news reflection class warfare of the corporate elite against workers. The corporate elite apparently do look at their fellow Americans as enemies, or at least as prey. And it's pretty normal for prey to see the predator as an enemy.

 

Okay. You may see those who purchase your software as prey, but I assume they knew what they were buying before committing. I would like to propose a new law that forces you to sell software for your competitors. You make nothing for your hard work, but it would be in the best interest of the buyer. Is that something you would support?

 

Well, beyond that idea being ridiculous, it strikes me as irrelevant to the issue of class warfare originating with capitalists.

 

Except for the fact that you want others to live by rules you wouldn't live by. I assume you had to invest in education and spent many hours working on developing software with the intention of supporting your family. What about the other workers in the company? What about their families? Shouldn't you give a percentage of your pay to the receptionist, janitor, and the mail room employees?

 

I have no idea what you're talking about. You would do well to explain this clearly and directly so we may get past this peculiar issue of yours.

Are you ok?

You requested "productive, polite discussion". So far it may be "polite" but it sounds like an attempt to accuse, corner, and vilify. We'll see. Try asking questions instead of making assumptions.

 

No. You are trying to vilify and I am trying to clarify. There was a question:

Shouldn't you give a percentage of your pay to the receptionist, janitor, and the mail room employees?

 

Do you really think such accusations are "productive and polite"?

I'm not interested in "gotchya" games.

If you want to actually learn what I think and advocate, start a "productive and polite" discussion. Otherwise goodbye.

 

No gotchya games here. Just curious why you exempt yourself from the rules you expect others live by. I don't blame you for embracing capitalism when it comes to supporting your family. You worked hard and deserve it.