Trump is terrified of the investigation into his relationship with Russia — and he should be

That's not true. AT&T making a hostile buyout of their parent company is most likely due to low revenue, as in buy low, sell high. And you don't know where I get my news, I follow ALL SOURCES including CNN. Unlike many here, I use critical thinking skills honed for over 50 years when I first had critical thinking class in junior high school. Just last week I watched Jeh Johnson tell Cooper there is NO EVIDENCE of Russian collusion with Trump, yet CNN wouldn't buy it.

Sounds most certainly like a train wreck in progress to me. Temporary rating highs are just people waiting for it.

Steve

 

Money laundering.
Why do you not understand that because a rule was not followed in no way means money was actually laundered.
Rules were not followed, and so the regulatory agency levied a civil fine.
No one was prosecuted, because no crime was committed.

 

Which is demonstrably not what happened. You assume the reason for the establishment of the link was for nefarious purposes without any proof of any such thing but nice try.

 

Criminal activity none of which was ever demonstrated on the part of the Casino or Trump. Civil fines do not prove criminal intent or criminal wrong doing. It went as a civil fine because they don't have any proof for a criminal conspiracy.

 

Wanting to use RUSSIAN SPY APPARATUS does NOT have a NEFARIOUS purpose on what planet?

 

What's to refute just MSNBC as usual assuming facts not in evidence. Mueller is a truth detector the way you are a football. He's up up to his ass in conflicts of interest as is most of the team he has assembled.

 

All of them... What he wanted was a secure means of talking to the Putin while being as certain as possible that no one was listening in. We used to have the same thing with the old red phone in the white house basement that been there since Kennedy, but Trump clearly doesn't trust our current intelligence apparatus and he has plenty of reason not to. The intelligence apparatus has become along with the IRS one of the chief means the swamp uses to defend itself.

 

The question was, what do those rules deter? Care to answer the question?

 

I check a variety of news sources too.

I'd suggest you not hang too much emphasis on no evidence of collusion. Mueller is to follow the evidence wherever it leads. He's looking at finances and hired lawyers with expertise in fraud, mobsters, and money laundering.

 

Ask a question that is germane to the argument and you'll get one. In this particular instance who theya re written to deter simply doesn't matter the government for what ever reason did not believe there was a criminal issue involved.

 

Thank you.

Trump's Taj Mahal broke rules that were designed to prevent money laundering, while he was the owner and again later when he was half owner. Those rules were also broken at Trump Castle, while Trump was the owner. Therefore Trump has history with money laundering.

With all due respect, you don't know what I understand or don't understand. You seem to think my point was that Trump, himself, was found guilty of felony money laundering.

My point was tigers do not change their stripes. Trump had laundered money in his casinos before. Real estate seems to be the preferred method to launder money now. Trump has some quirky real estate deals too, with lots of LLCs involved. If Mueller finds something to charge Trump with, my position was it wouldn't be collusion, but would probably be something financial, like money laundering. He already has stripes with that.

 

It's not a who, it's a what. The rules were written to deter money laundering.

The government issued the largest fine ever issued for money laundering to Trump's Taj Mahal, when he was the owner and again, with another record fine of $10MM when Trump was only a 50% owner.

It doesn't matter whether Trump was charged with criminal or civil penalties back int the 90s. What matters is what Mueller finds in his financial dealings now. If he's clean, he's clean. However, he has a history of financial shenanigans, including money laundering. Do you think he stopped?

 

No he doesn't. Your assumption is not reality. Fines do not indicate criminal behavior only that some didn't follow someones rules. If they could have proved either criminal intent or wrong doing everyone connect except those who plea bargained their way out would be in jail and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

It does not matter how many times you repeat this -- you have no proof of this claim.

Fact: Trump's Taj Mahal broke rules that were designed to prevent money laundering
Fact: Trump's Trump castle broke rules that were designed to prevent money laundering
These facts do NOT prove that:
Trump has a history with money laundering.

I do not know why you refuse to understand this.

 

This is not true; your own sources say so.

 

At this point, it's clear he chooses to not understand this.

There are literally a thousand rules and regulations for casinos -- that someone failed to sign a ledger sheet does not imply, much less prove, money was laundered.

 

Since you avoided my info that Jeh Johnson joined a long list of law enforcement people saying there is no evidence of Trump colluding with Russians, and you are handing out suggestions, then I would suggest you stop believing everything you read or hear.

Steve

 

I suggest you re-read my post. You obviously don't understand my position, nor know my assumptions.

Trump most certainly has experience with money laundering, and on more than one occasion. The fines he paid prove he has experience with money laundering. He didn't pay the fine because he was speeding. He wasn't fined because he was innocent either.

You seem to believe that unless Trump was proven guilty under felony money laundering charges and go to jail, that he didn't launder money, when the fine says differently.

This might help you- http://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/moneylaundering.asp

 

Your refusal to understand that you are wrong and why you are wrong borders on the dishonest.

 

Trump was fined 1/2 million dollars for breaking money laundering rules at the Taj Mahal
Trump, and partners were fined $10MM for breaking money laundering rules at the Taj Mahal years later too

They weren't fined because they followed money laundering rules.

Breaking money laundering rules allows money to be laundered.

You're not going to change the fact that Trump was fined for breaking money laundering rules… more than once.

If you don't want to call him a money launderer, that's fine. It doesn't change the fact that his casino was heavily fined for breaking rules designed to prevent money laundering.

 

Your opinion is noted.

 

Breaking money laundering rules does not prove money was in fact laundered.
And thus, your argument and your claims to that effect, fail.

 

Please point out where I said anything about collusion.

 

So, without proof, Trump just voluntarily paid a huge fine, at a time he was going bankrupt… just to be a good guy?

 

His people undisputedly broke the rules; the regulatory agency laid civil fines on his company. What's a guy to do?

Fact remains:

Breaking money laundering rules does not prove money was in fact laundered.
And thus, your argument and your claims to that effect, fail.

Admit it.