Trump is terrified of the investigation into his relationship with Russia — and he should be

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by ThorInc, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,244
    Likes Received:
    16,920
    Trophy Points:
    113
    not for legal reasons though except may be Russian ones. Many US laws would not be applicable inside the Russian Embassy. The primary reason though would have far more to do with security
     
  2. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,244
    Likes Received:
    16,920
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh maybe they aren't terribly thrilled about Obama using our intelligence services for purely political purposes.
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2017
    PrincipleInvestment and Ddyad like this.
  3. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,244
    Likes Received:
    16,920
    Trophy Points:
    113
    oh maybe they don't like being spied on.
     
    Ddyad and PrincipleInvestment like this.
  4. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2016
    Messages:
    23,170
    Likes Received:
    16,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You haven't long before you're scolded for straying off topic. It's the latest liberal trend in discussion. The OP is certainty related to the surveillance that spawned the investigations, but you have to appreciate the delicate sensibilities of the author.
     
  5. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,244
    Likes Received:
    16,920
    Trophy Points:
    113
    to both borrow and paraphrase frankly my friend I don't much about care about their delicate sensibilities. Especially give how utterly self serving they are.
     
    PrincipleInvestment likes this.
  6. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2016
    Messages:
    23,170
    Likes Received:
    16,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Lately I'm being constantly admonished for invading liberal echo chambers on this public forum. I've been "warned" and censored for "flamebaiting" twice, for inane comments that weren't personally deragatory. So now I'm only responding to persons who hold similar opinions, and frankly it disappoints me.
     
  7. ThorInc

    ThorInc Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2017
    Messages:
    19,183
    Likes Received:
    11,126
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So what do you think Mueller doing right now and is Trump looking a wee bit more haggard lately? Mueller might have some concern about Trump's health when is ready to drop the hammer. Trump may need a decompression lawyer at his side through the day but how will he get his orders from Vlad then? Maybe a Russian handler lawyer....
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  8. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,511
    Likes Received:
    25,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Correct. Jones is apparently what passes for a communist these days.
    Which does mean he is far more grounded in reality than the half informed DP peanut gallery still chewing on "nothing burgers".
     
  9. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,511
    Likes Received:
    25,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    In fact, Trump's base of support remained solid even before all the Fake News was exposed. His support is expanding as the dwindling residue of MSM credibility continues to evaporate.
     
  10. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    57,244
    Likes Received:
    16,920
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah you mean those Russian orders he used launch 51 tomahawks to blow up a Syrian airbase?
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2017
    Ddyad likes this.
  11. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,511
    Likes Received:
    25,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I try very hard not to deliberately irritate the anti-Trump faction. They believe what they read and see from bad sources that they will eventually reject. Try to be patient. :)
     
  12. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,511
    Likes Received:
    25,480
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump always looks about the same. Fat and happy - serene and unconcerned. ;-)
     
  13. Stevew

    Stevew Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2015
    Messages:
    6,501
    Likes Received:
    2,613
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Think again Hillary promoter. You have to go back to 1929 to find where dems have lost as much or more power than since 2010. That's ACROSS THE BOARD at local, state, AND federal levels. Dems are toast at least for a generation and you can be proud you were part of it.

    Steve
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2017
  14. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2015
    Messages:
    8,626
    Likes Received:
    3,490
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh Good Gravy!

    Money laundering requires two parts- one with dirty money and the other, a facilitator. Dirty money doesn't wash itself. The government knows that, thus they created laws to prevent the means to launder dirty money. Trump persistently broke the rules designed to prevent money laundering, which enabled dirty money to be laundered in his casinos. Yes, Trump has a history breaking the very laws designed to prevent money laundering, not once, not twice, more than 106 times in one year, and then again later in the same casino and at another one, as well. Without breaking those rules, money could not be laundered in his casinos. The huge fines levied against him were punitive. Innocent people do not get punished.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  15. bois darc chunk

    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2015
    Messages:
    8,626
    Likes Received:
    3,490
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Actually, it was the Russian trying to hide money from his wife, as they were going through a divorce- a Russian with close ties to Putin. Sweetheart deals usually come with strings. No one gives away $60Million without expecting something in return.
     
    Derideo_Te likes this.
  16. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2015
    Messages:
    47,848
    Likes Received:
    19,639
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You cannot prove money of any kind was actually laundered in any of Trumps casinos, and you know it.
    You cannot prove Trump personally broke the relevant rules, or ordered someone to do so, and you know it.

    You know you cannot prove these things, and yet you continue to claim they happened - why?
    Why is it, even when you clearly understand you have been proven wrong, you refuse to admit as much?
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2017
  17. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2016
    Messages:
    51,586
    Likes Received:
    37,963
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Actually :)

    Donald Trump insisted Wednesday that his only dealing with Russia was when he sold a mansion to a Russian billionaire for nearly $100 million.

    Come on :) I posted you the CNN article and there is a picture of the property, "Trump snapped up the property from Gosman's Chapter 7 Bankruptcy Estate for $41 million, according to property records." and then sells it to a Russian for profit! You honestly believe a property sold at a bankruptcy sale went for market value?

    And the whole divorce thing and the Russian trying hide 100 million from his the wife that ended up with a 4.5 BILLION settlement sounds even worth mentioning.

    At any rate, there is no appraisal and from the look of the property and it's location I doubt market price would be much less than a 100 mill ;)
     
  18. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    16,798
    Likes Received:
    17,571
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Reset button
     
  19. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    BZZZT Wrong again!

    The PURPOSE of the CONSPIRACY by Kushner and Flynn was to SUBVERT the US Law of the Land!

    The means by which they were doing it is secondary to the conspiracy that they were actively engaging in as PRIVATE CITIZENS!

    That is a CRIME!
     
  20. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It is a PARTISAN GOP Congress so no one is in the least surprised that they are FAILING to do the work that We the People elected them to do. They will be held accountable for this failure in 2018.
     
  21. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ironic!
     
    PeppermintTwist likes this.
  22. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Perhaps now would be a smart time for the BLOTUS to start looking into his asylum options in the Crimea.
     
    PeppermintTwist likes this.
  23. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Assumes extremist alt right disinformation not in evidence.
     
  24. PrincipleInvestment

    PrincipleInvestment Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2016
    Messages:
    23,170
    Likes Received:
    16,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Told ya! See #300 & compare to #320 ... surprised it took so long. :confuse:
     
  25. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2015
    Messages:
    50,653
    Likes Received:
    41,718
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ironic!
     
    Ddyad likes this.

Share This Page