Missiles Launched From Iran Hit ISIS Terrorist Bases in Syria

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  1. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps if we remove, the NeoCon & the Zionist malignancies and their Proxies from the scene
    Perhaps if we remove, those who wish to impose 'World Hegemony' & 'Full Spectrum Dominance'
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    erhaps if we remove, all the Liars & Hate Mongers, Perhaps then Syria may find healing & peace


    For with the recent victories by the Assad Regime & its Iranian, Russian, & Hamas allies

    Syrian Refugees
    Are Now Returning Home In The Hundreds Of Thousands, UN Says

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/syrian-refugees-return-home-hundreds-thousands-1140452234
     
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    Your Right - Sayyed Ali Hosseini Khamenei. Will have to send them a list of some easier names to name their babies. It surely will not happen with the current administration.
     
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    no, only Israel and her drones in the USA would celebrate.
     
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    Hmmmm - :mrgreen: - table cleared - :chew: -
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    In fact you did not.

    This is clearly a robotic response designed to glorify Iran's past (or Persia's, whichever you choose to call yourself these days) rather than an honest debate on what's happening today.

    Your English is excellent but your opinions are the same as any uneducated Arab who's opinions and ideas have been formed by religion and censorship of the media. Your genuine feelings leap out occasionally and, when they do, they're no different from those of the rabid crowds we often see rioting through the streets of Tehran.
     
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  6. Iranian Monitor

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    Iran has always been called Iran by Iranians. It was called Persia by the West until Iran's government in the 1930s asked that they call the country by its indigenous and historic name.
    I try, as best I can, to educate those who like to talk a lot about Iran but don't really have much of a clue, about the country. Of course, that doesn't mean you have to accept anything I say. The choice is yours. It is also your prerogative to conclude anything you wish about me from my comments. I can't help it and, frankly, I am not all that concerned about it either.
     
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    Thanks. American sentiments towards Iran are certainly colored by the events you describe. Other factors, including Israeli and pro Israeli efforts to demonize Iran, haven't helped either. As for your prognosis on future relations between Iran and the US, I can't deny that at the moment, the chances of relations improving are slim to none. In the US, there are special interest groups who will make sure the anti-Iran sentiments that exist are fueled to advance their agendas. In Iran, the response to these kind of agendas isn't going to be welcoming either. So I guess the two countries aren't going to be mending fences anytime soon. The best I hope for is that they don't get into an actual war!
     
  8. truth and justice

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    Actually it is you who believes all the propaganda about how terrible Iran is. Perhaps you can point out when this rioting often occurred? Has there been no rioting the US? Which countries have you visited? You then talk about censorship - a huge population of Iran has access to satellite TV! BTW you accuse MSM in the US as being fake news - is fake news not the same as censorship?
     
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  9. Iranian Monitor

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    I like to expand a bit on my post on the term "IRAN" and "Persia" because it is a source of a good deal of confusion, including even by some who write about Iran in the media.

    Initially, the name "IRAN" was a geographic designation used by the Iranian people to refer to the lands which they inhabited. This usage was prevalent and continued until the Sassanian or Sassanid dynasty (224-637), where IRAN (or Eran-shahr) also became the political name of the state. Hence, official title of Sassanid kings was "Shahinshah of IRAN" and non-Iran, or king of kings of Iran and non-Iran.

    After the Arab conquest of Iran, when Iran ceased to exist as a political entity for some time, this name of the country nonetheless persisted among its inhabitants. For instance, Iran's national epic, the Shahnameh or Book of Kings, written by Ferdowsi in the 10th century, is replete with references to Iran and love of Iran. Indeed, the epic covers the history of Iran from a mythical past at the dawn of human existence to the Arab invasion of the country, focusing on the battles (many legendary and some historical) pitting the forces of IRAN against non-Iran. Of Iranian kings and heroes who fought under the banner of Iran against Iran's enemies. The most emphatic message from the Shahnameh is a call to Iranians to stand united against those enemies, be willing to sacrifice all - including their lives - to make sure their country never falls under the hands of evil doers. In the Shahnameh, Ferdowis says: Cho IRAN Maba-shad, Tan-e Man Mabad (If Iran isn't anymore, my body isn't anymore). And "Dareegh Ast ke IRAN veeran sha-vad" ("Would be a shame for Iran to fall into ruins"); and for Iran to become prey of vultures and beasts and evil doers.

    The name IRAN persisted in Iranian folklore and culture but it was not until the Safavid dynasty (1501-1734) that the name against became the official name of the country in Iran itself, even as foreigners called Iran Persia. This issue is captured in John Chardin's Travels to Persia (1637-1677), where he writes:

    All subsequent Iranian rulers following the Safavids - be they the Afsharid dynasty, the Qajar dyansty, or the Pahlavi dynasty -- all assumed the title of Shah or Padishah (king) or sometimes Shahinshah (king of Kings) of IRAN. Iranians called their country IRAN as well. But in the West, the practice picked up from the ancient Greeks persisted until the 1930s, where IRAN was known as Persia. While not a perfect analogy, one way to understand the issue is to consider: Persia being to Iran what England is to the United Kingdom. It is not a perfect analogy, though, since unlike the United Kingdom, IRAN is itself an ethno-national term and connotes more than a mere political designation. Not just politically, but from a ethno-national perspective, Persia is part of Iran the same way the Persians are an Iranian people. The same way, that the ancient Medes or the Parthians were part of IRAN and an Iranian people. The same way, ironically, the Kurds are actually a part of IRAN and an Iranian people, even if many of them don't belong to Iran's present political boundaries.
     
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    Personaly, and I think it applies to many Israelis as well - I dont care how if ever the Arab/Muslim world accepts Israel, I dont care for your solutions because Im tired of trying to appease you since we won, Im all in favour of doing all the things we need to do to secure ourselves and let you deal with us, we are your problem at least as much as you are ours.

    Go ahead and sneeze.
     
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    I think they would more likly to cause harm to the Arabs in Israel that dont live in buildings with bomb shelters than to Jews but in any case it will be a short attack.
    In case of a WW3 kind of scenario with thousnads of rockets and missles, two things will happen - the attackers will get just 1 attack from us each and I dont see how the masque in the Temple mount would survive...., so every negative has a positive.
     
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    lol
    I had no idea your vote is so powerful, you and your friends can abolish states with the raise of your hand and make its residents "refugees", North Korea is doomed now.
     
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    This is progress!, a few years ago we got only 5 years of existance from an Egyptian poster and even less from Moon,
    Ofc in that time Egypt had two revolts and the Palestinians are now starving Gaza on their own, Iran revolution is just a matter of time, question is how bloody it will get. not that I care either way....
     
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  14. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure. Check out these simple-minded cretins. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/06/religion.uk1 The protests over a cartoon left at least 45 people dead. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/02/20/iran-official-end-cartoon-riots.html
    There certainly has been and of course the left has aligned themselves with the militant Muslims.
    That's none of your business.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Iran
    No, it is not.
     
  15. truth and justice

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    Which countries did those 45 deaths occur? Now how many in Iran? And it's funny that you have to go back 11 years to a riot where no one died yet in your country there are many many riots just in the last few months and regular deaths!

    Censorship: It's funny that the link you provided proves you wrong! Did you actually bother to read it or did you just assume it would say what you want it to say after reading the title ? Your link states "Despite a ban on satellite television, dishes dot many Iranian rooftops and people have access to dozens of Persian-language channels, including the Voice of America, broadcasting a daily dose of politics and entertainment. 30 percent of Iranians watch satellite channels, but observers say the figures are likely to be higher. In the first decade of the 21st century, Iran experienced a great surge in Internet usage, and, with 20 million people on the Internet, currently has the second highest percentage of its population online in the Middle East,". Practically everyone in Iran has access to satellite TV. The government try to remove them but it is a token gesture. Every few years, police raid hundreds of thousands of homes to remove satellite dishes which are then replaced when the police leave.

    You have no clue what goes on outside your country other than what your chosen propaganda says yet you have the nerve to criticise Iranian Monitor who has a much wider knowledge of world wide events
     
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    I didn't have to go back 11 years to watch an Iranian riot. It's just that rioting over a cartoon, and people dying as a result, is forever identified with Muslims and a reminder of how crazy they can get. For more recent riots you can see here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011–12_Iranian_protests

    Here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahabad_riots

    And here are some photos. https://www.google.com/search?q=rio...H2jfDUAhUCYyYKHdgnAd8QsAQIJg&biw=1276&bih=633
    So there is censorship in Iran, which is what I said.
    And they even censor the clothes a woman can wear! http://emirateswoman.com/how-women-are-using-social-media-to-protest-irans-compulsory-hijab/
    I don't doubt Iranian Monitor knows something of what's going on in Iran but he's also a propagandist, able to speak more of Iran's glorious past than it's questionable future.
     
  17. Iranian Monitor

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    Iran's immediate future might indeed be a bit "questionable" as a result of the nefarious plans in store for this country, but what you said reminded me of what the famous 19th century German poet, Goethe, wrote about Iran in the West-Eastern Divan:
    Requoted from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahnameh
     
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  18. truth and justice

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    Did you actually look at your link of protests?

    One was a silent protest - The children of Mir Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karoubi called for silent protests in Iran on 14 February, to mark the one year anniversary since their fathers were placed under house arrest.

    Most were statements saying that there was going to be a protest. Several were protests against the government.

    So perhaps you can make your point? Do you think that the government should crack down on government protests or are you applauding the Iranian population for protesting? And your link is 6 years old. None of this backs your claim "rabid crowds we often see rioting through the streets of Tehran"

    PS are those photos from LA or Chicago or Dallas or Loisiana or New York of Miami or Ohio because they seem very similar except different people and less blacks being killed
     
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    And Goethe might have been correct at the time he wrote that but that was well before the Ayatollah Khoemeini came along. Again you're referring to Iran's past rather than its present and future.
     
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    You apparently didn't understand what Goethe wrote and why I cited that passage. It was about the role and importance of history in understanding a country's present and future.

    Your understanding of Iran's present is hugely affected by what I would call propaganda. Of course, some of the propaganda (not all of it, to be sure) contain elements of fact and truth. But fundamentally, the propaganda misinforms you about Iran, not the reverse. Obviously, if you imagine that I am a "propagandist" for the regime in Iran, then there is no use for me to tell about Iran's present either. But if you want to know something about Iran, and if you don't subscribe to this idea that I am here to pool the proverbial wool over your eyes, then simply ask. I will try to give you an honest answer to any question you pose.

    P.S.
    Don't judge the validity of my answers by how well or poorly they correspond to the image portrayed about Iran in the US and the West more generally. That is definitely the wrong standard: whatever else, there is one thing that practically anyone who has set foot in Iran will agree on. And that is: Iran is nothing like it is portrayed in the West.
     
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    Americans, and others, are well aware of the dangers of 'setting a foot' in Iran. https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-americans-held-missing-in-iran-1452956704

    http://nypost.com/2016/07/28/iran-is-stocking-up-on-american-hostages-again/

    Best to stick to Iran's glorious past.
     
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    Iran actually has a good number of visitors, including from America. Sure, those numbers would be exponentially greater if we didn't have the propaganda that tries to dissuade people from visiting Iran and giving the country a bad image, but in the wake of the nuclear deal, Iran was touted as one of the top tourist destinations and has around 5 or 6 million foreign visitors each year. And many of them have written about their impressions of the country and how it differs widely from how it is portrayed. You can get that even in the MSM publications, but to really know the truth, just ask the average visitor to Iran who has posted about the country in the various travel forums which exist. Trip advisor, Lonely Planet etc.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/14/travel/iran-tourism-sanctions.html
    Sanctions Lifted, American Tourists Head to Iran

    http://www.businessinsider.com/iran...-tourists-2016-2?international=true&r=US&IR=T
    Iran is Suddenly a Hot Destination for American Tourists
    American tourists have rarely seen this beautiful side of Iran

    http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/The-truth-about-visiting-Iran-439604
    THE TRUTH ABOUT VISITING IRAN

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...s-flock-iran-image-world-170501130512051.html
    Tourists flock to Iran's 'image of the world'




     
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    Yeah... figures Israel bans Palestinians to enter bomb shelters....

    Like how Iraq and Hezbollah just made 1 attack on Israel? lol
     
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    I suppose the woman is forced to wear the head covering or be arrested, right? Many people visit Cuba as well but that doesn't make it a great place to live.
     
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    Are women allowed to go topless anywhere they want in the US in public? Why are women forced to cover up in the US?
     
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