Pyongyang Calls on Germany to Scrap Taurus Missile Deliveries to South Korea

O ... again the Anti-German card thrown?

Well ... you clever one, the difference is that we have something called brain in such business and don't sell our weapons to every scum as others do too often, because these worst dictators cuddle with your ass!

Sorry, you failed as usual totally with your hate tirade towards my country ... and as so often you shot an own goal, because all what you accuse Germany in the nonsense is really fitting to which other country again? Ehm ... yes! We better keep silence about and don't say which country, eh?

 

No the difference is that we have learned out of our bad history and we jail Nazis into prison ... in the USA they run free around with Klansmen costume and waving the swastika flag.
So... who is again Nazi country now?

 

I have no non german comrades.

 

Jesus, where does all this nonsense come from? Must be something in the water between NY and LA. You are T supporter, I assume.
I've had this kind of discussion with yanks on this forum numerous times and have learned that it's absolutely hopeless. It starts with this completely absurd notion that you actually know anything about the topic in question when pretty much every sentence clearly states the opposite and continues with a complete lack of understanding different cultures or even simpel facts. You folks are very good at one thing though, not paying any attention to any details whatsoever and deriving completely out of touch with reality conclusions from that.
I could write a book about the utterly idiotic things that folks (always from the same area strangely enough) have claimed here; and idiotic is the only fitting word in this context.
Most of you people are not even aware of who bizarre most of the nonsense you say really is.
Hated in so much of the world? What alternative reality does that come from?
You shouldn't confuse the US with other countries.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22624104
https://www.cnbc.com/id/100761312
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/germany-wins-bbc-popularity-survey-a-901454.html

I'm sure you have been to Germany countless times and can speak from first hand experience. I'm sure you read German papers, watch German news and follow the political debates. I'm also sure you are familar with the political landscape and its history. Hmm..
The rest of your comment ('intimidated by foreigners' OMG, 'on your knees') is so ludicrously absurd (I know, you're American and therefore you know better) that I won't address it. Trumpism and alternative realities are in full swing.

 

Cheer up old boy.
If you smile, people will like you.

 

I do smile alot and people like me.

Also funny you call me "old". I´m propably one of the youngest here.

Its simply a fact, that i dont have foreigners as Kameraden (comrades). I stand with my people and in general i have little trust in foreigners.

 

Yet....we are actually fighting it and calling it what it is. If only Germans had done the same.

 

No, in the US they run around spread hate and violence and the clown in the oival office doesn't have the spine to call what it is.
I'd suggest you read one or two or ten books on the history of the Weimar Republic and its collapse instead of relying on simplified bumper sticker wisdom.

 

As I actually live here and deal with this mess, it is likely I have an idea of what is happening here. As for the Weimar, you seem to blame the old republic just as Germans did after WWI and that did not work out very well either. You can suggest whatever you wish but, attempting to degrade my knowledge or intellect is a mistake you will regret if your mind is able to grasp the level of retribution and complexity of my rebuttal.

 

Germany does not have the tradition of freedom of speech that Americans enjory

We can deal with nazis (and communists) by debating them rather than putting them in jail

 

Unless they are rioting and breaking the law

Then they should be put in jail

 

What? You boasted how Germans ran WalMart out of Germany because male employees were told to smile, and in Germany only gay men smile so it was assumed WalMart male employees were all gay, and gay men are not tolerated by Germans.

So, you are a homosexual?

 

Yes, Mr Einstein. This comment of yours

is diametrically opposed to what you claim regarding your knowledge. It's rather superficial and highly simplifying don't you think? I can only reply to what I read here and whether someone has a Phd in political science or dropped out of school after four years I cannot know. So I go with what I see and read here.
Implying that if only Germans had done the same what we are doing at the moment is not exactly what I would call an accurate analysis as historical analogies hardly ever work. It sounds more like if only people in other parts of the world were as smart as we are, they would not have all these problems.
I didn't blame anything - is that the typical yank reading comprehension misinterpretation thing? The collapse of the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazis are much more complicated than "if only Germans had ...". in my opinion. Your comment "we are actually fighting it and calling it what it is" could be interpreted as "Unlike you we are actually fighting it ...", as if today's Germany doesn't fight Nazism.
I also don't think that I will regret anything but that last sentence sure sounds good when read out loud in a Darth Vader voice.

However, I agree with you that you have first hand experience and should be familiar with what you call a mess (I would agree with that too, I also dare to have an opinion on Trump, which seems like pure heresy for many, many yanks), just the way I have first hand experience living in Germany. Strangely enough that doesn't count for roughly 99% of yank users on this forum who seriously think they know better no matter what the issue might be (health care, education system, so-called refugee crisis, current immigration situation, which almost every yank on this forum seem to get wrong big time).
Maybe you're an exception, who knows.
Btw, I'm aware that "yank" is historically speaking not really accurate when referring to today's Americans, someone from Alabama would probably not be happy if I called them a yank.

Who told you that gay men are not tolerated by Germans? Where do you get this nonsense from? Former mayor of Berlin - gay, former mayor of Hamburg - gay, former foreign minister Guido Westerwelle - gay, Jens Spahn, member of Merkel's CDU and one of her strongest critics - gay.
Sounds like another made up story of yours like so many times before.

 

Context is very important here as that comment was in reply to this:
"Mandelus said: ↑
No the difference is that we have learned out of our bad history and we jail Nazis into prison ... in the USA they run free around with Klansmen costume and waving the swastika flag.
So... who is again Nazi country now?"

Thus was my less that pleasant commentary in response to your own.

 

)), LOL , you funny guy Pollycy, I think it's wishful thinking on your part, this so called alliance between it and Russia even China.

Sure Germans are smart, efficient, industrious, just look, two world wars, and still a powerhouse, and will be. There's little room in Germany's heart for anyone, except for Germany itself. Military alliances usually fail, and do, look at Molotov/ Ribbentrop, postwar Germany and Potsdam, USA/USSR, agreed to fight Germany together, after that all bets were off, and were. Germany need Russia for raw material and slave labor. Half of everything in Russia or more is German made, cars, trucks, industry, rail, medical. I've got AtV made in Germany, injectors on tractor units made in Germany, power saws, drills, welders, etc.

And as for the "nazi" thing, sure, but in 10+ years, that generation like me won't matter anymore.

 

Don't try to shout me down with your self-proclaimed superiority in the matter of understanding Germany. I am descended from Germans, I speak and understand German, and I have spent quite a lot of time IN Germany, more particularly from Köln to München. I have spent quite a lot of time with members of the German Bundeswehr, and those within the Germany government. You can make yourself believe that I don't know what I'm talking about -- but I DEFY you to prove it!

The funny part is that nearly every German I know plans to vote for Merkel next month.... You know why? Because everyone else is SO much WORSE. But not one German I know is happy with the situation there today... no, not ONE.

And they seethe with carefully-controlled anger at all this unfair idiocy of Germany having to carry the entire European Union on its back! And they are sick to death of always having everyone else (except, curiously enough, the Russians) always throwing "Nazi-cards" at them.

I don't know where you live, or who you are. In my gut, I suspect that you are not German at all! And, sure, there are Greens, ultra-Socialists, and Leftists of all kinds and forms in Germany. But a LOT (the worthwhile ones) of Germans are simply smart, intelligent, well-educated people who work effectively, efficiently, and hard, and, they have produced the very BEST country in all of Europe. And now that Great Britain is leaving the EU, Germany will be the undisputed leader of all of Western Europe. Exactly what do Germans need to keep on kissing our American asses for...? Spielt keine rolle, Caligula, and I don't back away from my prediction at all that Germany, Russia, and China together will rule everything of consequence in the entire Eastern Hemisphere... and I believe they'll do it within ten years from now....

 

Just speaking for your own benefit, you face two major dangers:

1. The air gets thinner with altitude. This leads to hypoxia, trouble breathing, occasioning death.

2. Falling from such a height is likely to cause broken bones and/or a fractured ego.

So I plead with you, please get down carefully off that high horse.

 

If you adopt the tactics of your enemy you become your own enemy.

Europe has a totalitarian, unjustified position on freedom of speech and thought. They are, like Australia, free in name only.

Advocates of Nazism do not present an imminent danger. Where they do they should be arrested like anyone else. Advocating for future genocide is not an imminent danger, neither is advocating for a future purge of the bourgeoisie.

Protesters in Charlottesville had every right to obtain a permit and express themselves and associate freely. The city will lose the coming lawsuit because to all its flaws, America still has mostly intact free speech rights.

Which is more than I can say for Germany.

 

No Europe has the used the brain and clearly says that "Freedom of Speech" Yes of course, but not if it is miss-used to call for violence, hate and crimes! This is something what the USA lacks and which is so silly, that it hurts! Due to the US definition, the head of ISIS in the USA is allowed to call for Jihad and to kill all Christians and whatever on Times Square ... is this OK, because freedom of speech? For sure not and anyone who denies this, is ... sorry ... a fool!

So sorry to say, but you fail, because Europe has the smart and far better version of freedom of speech and such scum like Nazis are not allowed to spread their sick racial hate BS in all public around and they never should have at all!

 

Hate speech is a cover to persecute free speech. I should be able to call you any names I want so long as I don't initiate violence or threaten imminent violence. I should be able to advocate for any ideas I want so long as I don't advocate for imminent lawless action. Advocating for a Nazi regime does not fit this, and that's about as extreme as speech gets.

I am deeply ashamed of my nation of Australia for capitulating to authoritarians. We have no explicit right to free speech anywhere in our constitution, so treasure yours. You don't know how lucky you are.

 

So you name it a cover when the enemies of democracy and freedom of speech miss-use this right in a democracy to publish their hate and ideology public? Strange position ...

 

But allowing that this scum is doing in all public what they did in Charlottesville, because this is covered by the so called freedom of speech! Ridiculous!
That this scum is miss-using this freedom of speech for their ideology which contents to eliminate this freedom of speech is of course ignored or only simply unimportant. Yep ... this mistake we made in Germany before 1933 too and the consequences are well known, isn't it?

 

The best counter to undesirable speech which is not imminently lawless is more speech, not less.

The only thing which makes me think twice about Nazism is its illegality. It makes it look like the state has something to hide. It establishes a persecution complex in their organisations and makes it easier for them to recruit.

Being a libertarian, Nazism is as far from my Ideology as anything except perhaps authoritarian Communism. I despise their ideas, yet I would die for their right to voice them.

This leaves me in the odd position where I'm simultaneously attacked (not by you) for both being a radical libertarian who wants to remove all the basic functions of government, and for being a Nazi sympathiser.

 

This mindset is far from ignored in the U.S. and has in fact outraged the population to the point of political and population outrage, resulting in everything from public shaming to violence and legal actions.

 

Words are really scary to you, huh?

Actually, your messages are rather ridiculous in the sense you have to come to a USA forum to rant about our government because you dare never, ever, ever do so about your own government.