What if the South won the Civil War?

It does not mean that today there would be slavery. HBO is doing that eh? Maybe I will activate HBO on my firestick.

But why would slavery still be present?

Frankly, this may not be popular to say but in the 60s when I was in the Army, we were used like slaves.

 

Few in the south owned slaves. The majority did not own slaves.

 

Stop your Soviet-Russian lying. We gave the Soviet/Ryssuans aircraft and I even told the type, model , and nomenclature- . P-39 Aircobra. There were tons and tons and tobs and tons and tons of ll sorts of war supplies and most of it was run up through the northern rought at great cost in lives by sailors. American lives. Russia took all the tons and and tons and tons and tons of dollies and did not even properly thank us those ungrateful bastards. Russian did indeed commit genocide they murdered 6-to 8 million Ukrainians by starvation !

 

And the majority of fools and idiots who did not own slaves died fir the slave owners. Fools and idiots !

 

We'd all be speaking German right now if America had been split due to the civil war.

 

A lot of fools died for Abraham Lincoln as well.

 

Take a good look at Germany at the time. It is about the size of Montana. I do not see a way Hitler could get troops to the USA.

 

Any Ukrainians who died in the so called Holodymir, which the Banderites like to use for anti Russian propaganda and therefore becomes questionable, lived in the Russian speaking sector, not in the Western Nazi sector. So you're telling me the Russians were killing their own people again. If there was any genocide it was by the Banderites from Naziland ...just ask the Poles.

Anyway you're reading too much 'wikipedia'. Here's a more accurate account of the arms given to the Soviet Union in comparison to what was given to other nations, and the proportion of it compared to the arms the Soviets had. Also how much of the aid actually got there, and when it did. Other than the food that was needed because of the German advance into Russia's farmlands, most of the aid was of an inferior quality and less than 1% compared to the arms produced by the Soviet
Union.


https://orientalreview.org/2015/05/12/wwii-lend-lease-was-the-us-aid-helpful-enough-i/

 

The Germans would have had a lot of troops already in the states. They were the largest ethnicity in the US other than the British. They even spoke their own language, and conducted business in German before WWI. The Germans I knew, one spouse was four or fifth generation American, and the other was from Germany.

It always amazed me that we fought on the side of the British considering not only the population of the Germans, but also that the Irish here hated the British. It shows what propaganda can do. The Lusitania was loaded with explosives for Britain, and someone must have notified the Germans. After the Lusitania, the Germans suffered their 'crystalnacht', and gave up their language.


This warning appeared in the newspapers right before the Lusitania set sail:

 

The South winning the Civil War is impossible.

 

Merely because you do not agree, you ought to at least hold that temper.

 

Unsupportable nonsense, derived from a gross ignorance of history.

 

Impossible? No.
Unlikely? Yes.

 

A rump US does not get involved in WWI, or at worst, has no meaningful impact.
Germany does not suffer under Versailles.
No Hitler.
Done.

 

One thing you wouldn't see is the Republican party becoming the Taliban and toppling or demanding the removal of Union war memorials across the country.

 

MacKinlay Kantor wrote a book titled "If the South had won the Civil War. I have it and it is an interesting read. Fiction of course. Kantor won the Pulitzer Prize for his novel "Andersonville." About a Confederate Civil War POW camp. I think if one is into alternative History, his book is the one to read.

If people can't understand reality from fiction, then this country is in deep trouble. A movie is a movie is a movie. If one don't like the idea or the plot or whatever about it, one doesn't have to go see it.

 

"Zeus" is a comic figure compared with "deus", our god and father in heaven. The old Indian root of the word "deus" is the word "diu". It means daylight (I guess used also in combinations like clearness, truth). And don't be astonished now. The word of the German word for "German", the word "deutsch", has a similar sounding root. "Deutsch" comes from the old Indian word "diutisk" ("diut-isk" = to belong to the people), latin: "theodisce", modern italian language "tedesco". That's why some people are falsely thinking the "Teutones" were a kind of biological root of Germans, what's totally wrong. I'm not even sure whether we Germans have any concrete biological root at all. Our roots are the German dialects and/or languages - language is spirit, not biology. Everyone who speaks German is a German. We could call for example the United States also "The German states of America". (German = deutsch = diut-isk = "to belong together" = "to be united").

Jews spoke by the way German and/or yiddish - a German dialect/language - so they were "deutsch", they "belonged to the people". That's why Hitler needed to use wrong ideas about biology and history. The Nazis (very good liars) used for example the expression "Aryans", because Jews were not Aryans (as all others were not Aryans too). They had to use a marker for their racism, the yellow star of David, because there were not existing real biologically differences between Germans and Jews.

The problem with the word "German" is it, that it is nearly exactly the opposite of the word "nation". The expression "Holy Roman empire of German nation" shows this very good. This was the only "German empire" which ever had existed (800 A.D. - 1806 A.D.). Roman? German? What now? A better translation could be: "Holy Roman empire of United nation".



Sprüche des Konfuzius

Dreifach ist der Schritt der Zeit:
Zögernd kommt die Zukunft hergezogen,
Pfeilschnell ist das Jetzt entflogen,
Ewig still steht die Vergangenheit.

Keine Ungeduld beflügelt
Ihren Schritt, wenn sie verweilt.
Keine Furcht, kein Zweifeln zügelt
Ihren Lauf, wenn sie enteilt.

Keine Reu, kein Zaubersegen
Kann die Stehende bewegen.

Möchtest du beglückt und weise
Endigen des Lebens Reise,
Nimm die Zögernde zum Rat,
Nicht zum Werkzeug deiner Tat.

Wähle nicht die Fliehende zum Freund,
Nicht die Bleibende zum Feind.

Dreifach ist des Raumes Maß:
Rastlos fort ohn Unterlaß
Strebt die Länge, fort ins Weite
Endlos gießet sich die Breite,
Grundlos senkt die Tiefe sich.

Dir ein Bild sind sie gegeben:
Rastlos vorwärts mußt du streben,
Nie ermüdet stille stehn,
Willst du die Vollendung sehn;
Mußt ins Breite dich entfalten,
Soll sich dir die Welt gestalten;
In die Tiefe mußt du steigen,
Soll sich dir das Wesen zeigen.

Nur Beharrung führt zum Ziel,
Nur die Fülle führt zur Klarheit,
Und im Abgrund wohnt die Wahrheit.

Friedrich von Schiller

 

The only possibility of the south "winning" is that they would be allowed to secede - there is NO WAY they would have been able to knock out the north as the north did to the south - they didn't have the industrial base or population to conquer the north.
The north would have done very well without the south, the south would be a third-world nation - they are net recipients of federal funds that the north could better use for itself.
Would have been interesting to see what would've become of the West.

 

Nazi-Germany was a result of world war 1. World war 1 has a lot to do with then technology of weapons. The technology of weapons has to do with the American civil war 2. ...

Nevertheless the USA destroyed the German language of the USA in context with world war 1. To remember: The first public print of the declaration of independence was once made in the USA in the German language.

In 1853 the USA forced Japan with canon ships to open the Japanese markets for international business (and changed the Japanese way to live forever).

Take a look at this: http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/special/japan_1750_perry.htm

 

Though true that war technology d

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Though war technology did develop during the civil that woukd not have meant anything if the US was chopped off by 1/3 with the confederacy gone. The US woukd not gave been strong enough to field an army to save France and England during WW . So Germany may havecsed for a better peace than surrender.

 

Between what? Schiefer und Fäkalien? ... Should it not be "between s-h-i-t and fecal matter"? The first man in history who had forced people from our region to go in war with Russia was by the way the mass-murderer Napoleon Bonaparte.

 

I do not understand your form to think. What do you think "Germany" - I guess you mean the Prussian politics of the 19/20th century now - should had to do on what reason?

 

No, it's impossible. The industrial capacity of the North completely precludes a victory by the South.

 

Forget Prussia! If the US did not have the Confederate states it would have been a very much weaker nation and the US would not have been in position to jump into WW1. If that was the case then Germany would not have been defeated therefore Germany may not have had the conditions to spawn a Hitler. Maybe. If Hitler still surfaced the US. Would not have been a strong enough country to have had the calamity to join in WWII and beat Germany. In the Far East the US woukd not have had the capacity to defeat Japan. The scenarios are numerous in alternative history.

 

The fact that Napaleon was a dictator does not make Hitler or Stalin good guys. Scum is still scum.