Video shows Charlottesville driver's car being hit with a bat.

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Defending the murderer? Why do you leftists constantly, and I mean constantly, make up stories about what you want to hear instead of acknowledging facts? Show me where he defended anyone. You guys did the same thing with Trump's statement on this, you told nothing but lies.

    But the guy who 'tapped" the bumper 'knew what the intentions of the driver was.' How do you know that? You can't. More invented facts.

    You're almost as bad as the guy who saw two photos of an antifa thug with a bat and refused to believe it. He wanted us to prove the photos were real. Incredible.
     
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    Ten yards in front of a car heading 20-30mph directly towards you and your fellow protestors without breaking is proof of the driver's intention
     
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    Yep - they love to ignore the last part, don't they?
     
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    Wooden flag poles are usually 3/4" in diameter, that pole is the diameter of the average baseball bat at the grip end. It was meant to be a weapon and he used it like one. The police forensics with determine whether he hit the car before or after it accelerated. The second part of your post was just too much opinion and devoid of facts to respond to.
     
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    If the forensics show the car sped up after being hit, they'll both be up for involuntary manslaughter. BTW if the car was speeding up before it was hit the front end would rise, but it was low in the front when it was struck.

     
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    My god, how desperate are you to defend this murderer and shift some of the blame. Comparing the murderer's car to a racing Mustang accelerating at max while being floored! Are you sure that you don't want to compare it to a Hennessey Venom GT? Amazing eyesight and resolution you must have! BTW How much lower was it in the front compared to the back?

    You have ignored the fact that the murderer did not brake at all as he sped towards his victims.
     
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    There's plenty of blame to shift. It's basic physics 101, all cars rise in front when you step on the gas hard. Why are you so quick to defend the mob?

    Had they been using the sidewalk as required by law, the crowd wouldn't be negligent at all. However, if he was startled by the idiot smacking his car with a bat and drove into the crowd by accident (stepping on the gas instead of the brake) I'll be very surprised if he's convicted of murder. It would be involuntary manslaughter, in Virginia that's 1 to 10 years and that's IF he's convicted.
     
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    You still have not said how much lower the front of the car was compared to the height of the rear of the car? Did someone say that he stepped hard on the gas? The evidence shows that he did not brake once as he plowed into people and into the rear of another car. But anyway you carry on defending the murderer
    So what is your excuse for him deliberately crashing into the car 15 yards behind the flag bearer after he deliberately run over people and not braking once?
     
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    I wasn't there to measure it.

    Then the law violators in the middle of the street failed to use reasonable care to get out of traffic.

    That would indicate that when his car was struck in the rear with a bat he stepped on the gas to evade bodily harm. He may have even been looking back to see the source of the danger.

    He was trying to get away from his attackers when he could have easily went forward and mowed down more people. I heard these same type excuses for bad behavior with T-Bones Martin. Look at your own pictures, when the guy hits the back of the car with the bat, two others are blocking the way of the car facing it. The driver will claim at that point he was in fear of his life.

    If the DA makes the mistake of going after the driver with Murder charges the result will be the same as the Zimmerman trial. They might be able to make involuntary manslaughter charges stick, but only if they go after the guy with the bat and the 2 guys facing the car and blocking the road.
     
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    But you said "BTW if the car was speeding up before it was hit the front end would rise, but it was low in the front when it was struck."
    Perhaps you could give a figure of the change of height of the front end over a given acceleration? Let's be conservative and assume the car was in constant acceleration from a speed of 0mph to 20mph in 10 seconds, what will the front end rise by over this gentle acceleration?

    Did they? So it was the fault of the woman that she died for not getting out of the way?
    Actually as already proved, it was a flag pole. Perhaps you can now explain the reason for the car to be speeding towards the protestors at 20-30mph before he reached the flag bearer who was only 10 yards away from he main group?
    Actually he could not go further forward as there were two other cars in front of him, oh, and the many bodies that he deliberately run over

    Oh dear! Now you're also blaming two other guys as well
     
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    He should use the racial fatigue defense.
     
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    I also heard the driver is schizophrenic.
     
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    If he was traveling forward, and people started attacking him, why do you assume he would stop, and go backwards?
     
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    Get in your car, put a mob of 50 angry people in front of you on a narrow road, and I'll approach with a bat and hit your car.

    That right there is going to drop this to involuntary manslaughter.
     
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    Quick question... if it is your intent to murder people with a car... would you drive into a horde of collected people on either side, or two cars directly ahead of you?
     
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    You must not of understood the oath you took. I took the same one, and we promised to uphold the constitution. Of which free speech and expression is protected. Even that speech that you don't agree with.
     
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    Translation: waltersobchak can't understand mob action and being threatened with godly harm.
     
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    "People" didn't attack him. One guy hit his back bumper with a bat. This was after, as I've said before, he had slowed down and let the crowd file in front of him, betraying his intentions. If he just wanted to escape, he would have gone in reverse. Again, this is what he did when he actually wanted to escape. Ahead of him were people who were not attacking him. A guy to his side hit his bumper. There was no way for him to actually escape by moving forward. The only thing he "accomplished" by moving forward was attempting to kill several people and successfully killing one.
     
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    You mean bodily harm? No one in front of him was threatening him with bodily harm.
     
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    Yes... you have said this before. I asked you for the evidence of this, and am still waiting for it.

    For all i know, he was directed down that alley by the cops, stopped cause he had no intent of getting surrounded by that crowd, and was attacked. See how easy conjecture works? I dont know what happened prior to accellerating, but would love to. Please post any video you know of prior to that point. If there is none, as I expect, then stop stating this scenario as fact.
     
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    Let's see if his defense attorney will argue that...hmmmm, okay?
     
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    Watch the video in the OP. No one in front of him attacks him. It is the guy to his side that hits the bumper. There was no one behind him. There was no path to escape in front of him. If he wanted to escape, he would have gone in reverse, which is what he did when he actually tried to escape, after he ran folks other and went on to evade police.
     
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    Again, video PRIOR to his accellerating. Video you say shows him at a stop.
     
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    The video does shows just prior to accelerating.
     
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    Why are you not getting this?
    You continue to claim that he was at a stop, betraying his intent. You previously claimed that there was video of this. You contend that he was waiting for a crowd to gather... I am suggesting it is possible he was attacked at this point. Post this magic video, or stop insisting your beliefs are facts. The truth is, nobody knows what happened prior to that video, and he was already accellerating when that video begins. His tires chirp prior to the cut and zoom whoever edited the op video created, which gives an inaccurate impression of speed btw.
     

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