Video shows Charlottesville driver's car being hit with a bat.

Yes. Stopped at water.

 

Amazing! There's at least 4 very clear photos of the Charger before impact -- NO APPARENT DAMAGE ON THE VEHICLE -- and the protester who took the swing with the flagpole looks like he missed.

This so called excuse for why he did this horrendous act doesn't hold up to the visual evidence.

What's next? There was a freaking bee in the car?

 

Slipped on a banana.

 

Images 27 and 28 clearly show the person swinging the flag and the distance the vehicle traveled in the time it took to swing through an arc of 180 so it is unlikely that it would have connected at that speed.

FTR the scrape marks on the bumper are clearly visible BEFORE any potential contact by the flag.

 

Which scrape marks are you referring to? Do you mean the dark spot on the bumper near the license plate?

 

I think this dude needs to save us all the emotion of a trial, and plea guilty to the crime he committed. A No-contest guilty plea is the start of healing.

 

I can hit your window with a hammer and do no visible damage... until I do. Trying to assess the condition of the car from some photos is ludicrous.

 

Why?

That's what a jury will do.

Look, even IF the primary charge is reduced to Voluntary Manslaughter, the other 5 charges will put him away for a very long time.

Now I know it sounds like I'm convicting the guy, but I am only going with what I see. Until other evidence comes forth (that annoying bee, for instance), the case does not look too promising for Jimmy, or the detractors who are spinning this 15 ways to Sunday.

Why are we even arguing this?

 

I dont know that we are arguing. I think we are coming to a common understanding of what happened, and what is likely to happen.

I am not defending this ******bag, I am just trying not to use my personal feelings or emotions to derive unknown motives with which to convict him. For your part I have found you to be civil and well reasoned. You have altered my perception at least in part of what happened, and have enjoyed the conversation.

 

Thank you...the feeling is mutual.

 

Sam Harris has been railing against "white identity politics" on his Twitter account and calling his opponents "imbeciles" and "dummies" for good measure. Interestingly, Douglas Murray took quite a push back at him over this on Sam's podcast, pointing out that middle white America has reason to be aggrieved. I'm not sure Sam expected opposition from my excellent countryman, but I'm glad to have not been let down.

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/identity-terror

The actual conversation starts at 4' 37'', and they head straight into the white identity politics thing. Douglas's pushback kicks in at 11' 29''.

 

Yes.

The extremist alt right is trying to claim that is "evidence" that the car was struck by the flagpole even though the images show that it was not long enough to even reach that scrape mark on the bumper.

 

Problem is that there is a similar discoloration at the lower right edge of the bumper. It just doesn't look from this distance and angle like a scrape mark. At first I thought it might be a reflection of something on the street, but it doesn't move or shift. To my eye it looks like a paint patch, and not a perfect color match.

 

Looks more like undercoat to me. Plastic bumpers are flexible and the paint isn't. So small dings cause the surface paint to come off. That was a 2010 model so those kinds of marks on the paintwork are common enough on older vehicles.

 

You're right. Undercoat would explain that quite easily.

But impact from a bat or other object? I dunno...seems to be only frictional force can do that IMO.

 

Agreed!

Plus the fact that the flag was too short to reach where the scrape was and the vehicle was moving in the same direction as the motion of the flag so at the most it might have been a soft tap. Nowhere near enough to remove any paint.

 

I dont think it matters if he made contact. The kid was going at an unsafe speed already at that time. That someone was trying to hit his car, I think, will be of advantage to the defense, though it could be argued the car was struck because it was going too fast. In the end, I dont think it offers much. We will see.

 

Ah. Gotcha.

 

So... yeah.