What's missing in Trump's plan is defeating the BELIEF that drives our enemy

The enemy DOES believe he exists, so that reality needs to be addressed of course.

 

So then we agree that Muslims are delusional? Anybody who actually fully believes in an entity that is not actually real (fairies, dragons, Allah, etc.) is delusional.

 

You know every religion on the planet has a similar phrase right?

You yourself want to fight all theists until they stop being theists.

 

That doesn't change the fact that Allah didn't write any books.

 

The Qur'an does NOT say that it's only relevant to the 8th century! It's for all time! Please study Islam more.

 

Is that how the Sciences of Psychology or Psychiatry define delusions? Or is this another case where you, like a theist, dismiss any science that doesn't conform to your worldview?

 

NOT "FIGHT"! Incredible. You can't show where any of my beliefs say to fight/kill to spread Modern Secular Humanism.
Stop defending a religion that say to spread it by the sword (basically.)

Can you condemn Muslims for approving of the 160+ Jihad-enabling verses, Questerr? I can, how about you?

 

Plenty of Muslims do say that.

 

Science is not perfect, as we see by the fact that the science of Psychology still has a long long way to go.

 

Wait, so "fighting" doesn't have to be literal?

 

Where does the Qur'an say it?
Tell us how many Muslims will answer "yes" to this question: "If the Qur'an says it's for all time then is the Qur'an wrong?"

 

So yes, you choose to ignore the parts of science that don't conform to your worldview, just like theists do.

Should I condemn you as "delusional"?

 

So you would like to trade "inflaming" the people of a country to all Muslims....not a good idea. I do believe it is a good idea to challenge Sharia Law and the beliefs of the radical muslims.

 

Wen Mohammad calls for genocide against the Jews in the Islamic text quote below, it would be hard to believe that "fight" means, uh, say, a DANCE fight!
Please care about people more than you do - enough so that you condemn texts that say to fight non-believers. Non-believers are not evil Nazi storm-troopers, they are innocent people.
"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, ......." Sahih Muslim, 41:6985, see also Sahih Muslim, 41:6981, Sahih Muslim, 41:6982, Sahih Muslim, 41:6983, Sahih Muslim, 41:6984, Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:56:791,(Sahih al-Bukhari, 4:52:177

Can you condemn Mohammad for calling for genocide against the Jews, Questerr? Surely we can agree that someone who calls for genocide against Jews (a certain German guy did that as well) is is be condemned, no?

 

By challenging Sharia Law you challenge ALLAH/MOHAMMAD, obviously!

 

You realize that's from a Hadith, right?

 

Some parts of science, at least today, are not terribly convincing - psychology being a great example. But religions are afraid to IMPROVE the texts of their religion - intellectual cowards, and won't admit that parts are dead wrong. I admit that, certainly in the future, we'll find parts of science that today are wrong.

 

So you condemn all Muslims who have ever believed that any hadith is actually a "true" hadith, correct?

 

You realize that untold numbers of Muslims do look to that part of the Islamic texts for guidance, right?
Can you condemn Mohammad for saying to fight the Jews? I bet you can't.

 

So what evidence do you have to prove psychology and psychiatry wrong? What studies have you undertaken? Where is your doctorate from?

 

Did Mohammad actually say that or does that Hadith just claim he did?

 

Science is not set in stone, unlike the Biblical 10 Commandments. We are better than religionists because we can improve our texts - Christianity, in thousands of years, has not found the courage to improve on the 10 Commandments, which is not that hard to do.
Keep in mind that the 10th Commandment only talks to MEN. Terrible.

 

We'll never know 100%, now will we (because god is such a terrible communicator)? Can we both agree that if you and I were in Allah's situation, that we'd have cleared this up, educated much much better over 1400 years, so that there was much much less doubt....correct?

 

Why would I want to violate people's free will?

 

Good question -we'll never know 100% for sure.
Can we both agree that we both condemn any Muslim who would accept that hadith (i.e. would accept that the "best person of all time" would teach genocide of Jews)? Can we Q?