Debunking the 3 biggest myths about antifa

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  1. Voltamp

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    You've been pretty superfluous so far
     
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    Bull****. Antifa uses violence against anyone not in uniform.
     
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    No, the reason antifa covers their faces is because they're criminals.

    If they were proud of their actions, and their actions were both legal and moral, covering the face would not only be unnecessary, it would not be desired.
     
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    "By Any Means Necessary" (that's the actual name of an antifa group) tells us everything we need to know about antifa thugs....everything.
     
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    citation neeeded famalam
     
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    We have read your article - it's just that the article is WRONG, that's all.
     
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    Evil right-wingers in action...no - wait.
     
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    Same, the best thing to draw from the article is that ANTIFA is too stupid to quit while they are behind and are doubling down on fallacious rhetoric and stats no one will buy re "95% not violent," "X number of deaths by 'far right'" etc... while wearing masks and rioting... LOL. Keep posting this stuff, it is toxic for the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex whom the American voter is not hearing enough disavowals of ANTIFA from. Keep reminding them of that, by all means! Keep rationalizing!
     
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    Having groups like antifa running around our country makes me less proud to be American. Those standing UP to oppose antifa give me hope, however.
     
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    Disgusted America - there, corrected.
     
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    If I was an ISIS supporter I'd be offended by that comparison. Offended!
     
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    People like you are HANDING Trump a second term.
     
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    They have to have young people because young people are gullible and they have to have that kind of rhetoric to keep young people's attention.

    Why do you think antifa seems so childish and immature? Because they have to attract to the childish and immature
     
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    Which brings up, who are Antifa's affiliates and supporters besides the DNC and George Soros ?

    Antifa Affiliates

    A number of noteworthy leftist organizations are sympathetic to, and affiliated with, Antifa and its objectives. Following is a list of some of these groups, along with a brief description of each.

    1) ItsGoingDown.org, which has been referenced numerous time in this document, describes itself as “a digital community center from anarchist, anti-fascist, autonomous anti-capitalist and anti-colonial movements.”

    2) By Any Means Necessary (BAMN) seeks to galvanize “a united struggle of the black and Latina/o communities and all the disadvantaged and oppressed in American society” — a society allegedly “distorted by ... racism, sexism and anti-LGBT bigotry.” BAMN traces “the New Jim Crow second-class treatment” which these groups receive to the “unbridled cynicism” of the many “re-segregationists” affiliated with the Republican Party and the conservative movement. The organization urges its activists to “work collectively” to promote “real egalitarian principles” through “mass action” and thereby forge “an international movement of the oppressed” that would place “the needs of humanity ... before the enrichment of a few.”

    BAMN grew out of the Revolutionary Workers League, a Trotskyite entity that favors worldwide socialist revolution and was once the largest black Marxist organization in the New Communist Movement, which openly endorsed violence. One of BAMN's leading organizers today is the Berkeley-based schoolteacher Yvette Felarca, a Berkeley-area social-studies teacher who openly and explicitly advocates the use of violent riots as a legitimate means of making a political statement. “Riots are the voice of the unheard,” she said in December 2014. “You can never replace the lives of Michael Brown and Eric Garner,” she added in a reference to two black men who had died in highly publicized altercations with police officers earlier that year, “but you can always replace broken windows.”

    3) Refuse Fascism (RF) was established shortly after the November 2016 U.S. presidential election by a coterie of Revolutionary Communist Party members. RF laid out its political and ideological platform in a December 2016 manifesto depicting President Trump as an illegitimately elected “white supremacist” and “fascist” whose brand of “madness” — which promotes “xenophobic nationalism, racism, misogyny, and the aggressive re-institution of oppressive 'traditional values'” — is “more dangerous to the world than even Hitler” was.

    4) The Bastards Motorcycle Club (BMC) started in 2015 as an all-male, “anti-racist, LGBT-friendly motorcycle gang.” According to Mother Jones, the BMC “has rolled up to oppose racist events across the South, sometimes armed and ready to rumble.”

    5) The Huey P. Newton Gun Club, named in honor of the late drug dealer, rapist, and murderer who founded the Black Panther Party in the 1960s, is “a coalition of different organizations and groups supporting armed self defense as well as patrols.” Formed in response to a March 2013 police shooting of an “unarmed African American victim,” this group aims to “Arm All Black, Brown, and Poor men/women across the United States that can 'legally' bear arms,” and to bring about an “immediate end to police terrorism and murder of the people (Black, Brown, and Poor).”

    6) Redneck Revolt, which professes a dedication to “putting the 'red' back in redneck,” is a network of mostly anarchists and libertarians who are “focused on anti-racist organizing among the white working class.” Drawing their inspitration from the Young Patriots — a coterie of white Appalachian activists who allied themselves with the Black Panther Party in the late 1960s — Redneck Revolt aims to redeem working-class whites who “have ... participat[ed] in genocide and the enslavement of other peoples [as well as] in state and paramilitary organizations and formations like the Ku Klux Klan, the Minutemen, the U.S. Armed Forces, and the Council of Conservative Citizens.”

    7) Showing Up for Racial Justice strives “to undermine white support for white supremacy and to help build a racially just society” by “delegitimiz[ing] racist institutions” and implementing socialist economic principles.

    8 ) The ANSWER Coalition is a pro-socialist alliance that views America as a nation awash in racism, discrimination, and “militarism.”

    9) The Workers World Party is a Marxist-Leninist sect that opposes the “criminal imperialist” American “system” which reduces workers to the status of mere “pawns in a capitalist political game.”

    10) The Party for Socialism and Liberation is a committed proponent of “revolutionary Marxism,” a consistent supporter of “revolutionary Cuba,” and a harsh critic of “U.S. imperialism.”

    11) Black Lives Matter is a black supremacist movement that was founded by Marxist revolutionaries who uniformly revere Assata Shakur, the former Black Panther and convicted cop-killer who has spent decades as a fugitive in Communist Cuba. James Anderson, who helps run the ItsGoingDown.org website, proudly affirms that Antifa groups “are working with Black Lives Matter.”

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=7921

     
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    Good one.

    Just a friendly reminder - I see from our records that you have not paid your 2017 dues to our Vast Rightwing Conspiracy.
     
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    the people that voted for trump are never going to not vote for trump. focus on mobilizing the apolitical by providing a genuinely inspiring vision of the future. i find bernie sanders woefully reformist, but at least he's giving people something to care about. that's why he's the most ppopular politician in america.
     
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    Which tells me antifa is much worse than the neo nazis
     
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    So very very telling! "3) Refuse Fascism (RF) was established shortly after the November 2016 U.S. presidential election by a coterie of Revolutionary Communist Party members."
    antifa are anarchists and communists...almost as bad as Sharia Law advocates.
     
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    Lol that vid is awesome
     
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    If leftwing nazis - aka antifa - were just non violent community organizers like obama they would not be so bad

    But they are much worse
     
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    Conclusion

    The Antifa movement and its foot soldiers can rightfully be categorized as a special-operations unit of the modern Communist/anarchist left. The movement's professed mission is to beat back the forces of “fascism,” which it falsely and slanderously equates with conservatism. By drawing that equivalence, Antifa hopes to persuade many Americans to reject their allegedly racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic culture, and to instead embrace Marxism or anarchism as desirable alternatives.

    Antifa's propensity for using violence as a means of silencing its enemies is particularly significant. Utterly rejecting any notion of a free and open exchange of ideas, the movement views anyone who holds a contrary political perspective as an enemy that must be crushed by any means necessary. This obvious reality corroborates what Jonah Goldberg points out in his book Liberal Fascism the very close relationship that exists between fascism and communism. “[F]ascism, properly understood, is not a phenomenon of the right at all,” writes Goldberg. “Instead, it is, and always has been, a phenomenon of the left. This fact … is obscured in our time by the equally mistaken belief that fascism and communism are opposites. In reality, they are closely related, historical competitors for the same constituents, seeking to dominate and control the same social space. … n terms of their theory and practice, the differences are minimal.”

    Thus, in the final analysis, it can accurately be said that the Antifa communists and anarchists who so passionately denounce fascism, are quite literally fascists themselves.
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    Well, ya, I posted it. You think I'd post a video if it was lame? ;)
     
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    We'll never elect a socialist in sheep's clothing (actually a communist) like Bernie.
     
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    god i wish bernie was a communist
     

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