Why its not JUST A FORM

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Turtledude, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget to be free from cruel and unuual punishment. Or to be twice put in jeopardy. Or to counsel. Or a jury. Or to privacy. Or to not quarter troops in ones home. Etc.
     
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    Yeah those too
     
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    Reality Well-Known Member

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    You said all rights, right?
    Why would voting tests be off limits if mandatory training is acceptable?
     
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    Reality Well-Known Member

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    What training did you receive before you were free from cruel and unusual punishment?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that's ridiculous. none of them have pre-existing requirements to exercise
     
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    Because there is no grounds to support it. But maybe I am wrong. So if you believe in that go push for that.
     
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    Not training. Read his post. Restrictions
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    I think you should stop lying about other posters. we aren't the ones who support gun bans. we don't approve of laws that harass honest gun owners as you do. we don't praise governments that ban guns as you do
     
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    They all come with some kinds of restrictions....its different for each one. Voting has preexisting requirements for example....registration
     
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    I think you should stop lying to. It does not advance your argument it is just a way for you to derail the argument. And stop supporting gun bans....they don't work
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    you are just trolling when you claim I support gun bans. you know its dishonest but then again, dishonesty is the stock in trade the anti gun movement has. no one on this board even remotely believes i am a gun banner. Most of the pro gun posters believe you are. Why do you think that is?
     
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    Here you are derailing again ....off on a personal tirade. This is not about you and me. How many times do you need these posts deleted? This is unfair to others who want to debate. You will never win. You are as much of a gun banner as I am. Now move on
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    how am I just as big a gun banner as you are when you support gun bans in other countries. You don't debate by making stupid dishonest assertions about others.
     
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    It never ends with you. Over and over the same personal attack. Get over it. Move on. You have admitted you want to ban guns. Now move on already
     
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    Are you really a Gun banner ?
    Say it ain't so !
    Could it be ?
     
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    you are lying. I have never supported banning guns. and you are calling pro gun posters gun banners. that is both a lie and personal attack
     
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    You are lying. You have supported gun bans. I have not. You are just derailing
     
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    prove it. I have never supported gun bans. and you are on record favoring gun banning governments. you also are so obsessed with felons obtaining guns, you want to harass all law abiding gun owners with registration, so you clearly support a blanket gun ban for felons. and when asked about that-you never have the guts to even answer the question
     
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    Yes you have. And you continue to derail. What does this have to do with the op?
     
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    what gun bans have I supported? you are on record supporting a ban on all felons. You are on record supporting English and Australian Gun bans
     
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    You are lying. Point to a post number when I specifically support the Australian or English gun bans. If you can not I claim that you are lying about me. And you continue to derail. What does this have to do with the OP? I guess you lost that argument. Its just a form. LOL
     
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    What is just a form ?

    I thought this was a forum for discussion, and a form is something to be inscribed..
    Like BATF form 4473, now that is just a form is it not ?
     
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    So what cruel and unusual punishment may be dished out over and above your right then?
     
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    What? The court determines what is cruel and unusual punishment. Many times the court has had to place RESTRICTIONS on jails and prisons on their practices because they violated this right. DUH. LOL
     
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    What?
     

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