Turkey Will Attack US Kurds In One Week If They Don't Withdraw

This is a genocide .. The bombing is constant and 2.6 million people are at risk .. with the approval of Russia and Iran. Its not about the Turks.

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Good...I am no fan of Erdogan, but the Kurds have ZERO legal right to take those lands that are part of Syria.
I hope - though doubt - that Turkey does force those Kurds out of Syria.

I hope no Americans get killed, but they have no business whatsoever being there either.

Assad is no saint by any stretch, but he is still the (flawed) elected leader of Syria...ALL of Syria.

And this sets a very bad precedence that it is okay to just gobble up parts of war torn countries whenever someone feels like it.

 

Turkey has a HUGE and relatively well-equipped armed forces. If they REALLY want to move the Kurds out (depending on how much America helps the Kurds), they could DEFINITELY move the Kurds out of Syria.
Remember, the Kurds have no airforce. It is almost impossible to win a war in a desert if your opponent has complete control of the skies with a modern Air Force.

Though I doubt Turkey they will actually attack the Kurds. Not with America actively supporting the Kurds.

But I could be wrong...they might try pin prick attacks to get their message across.

 

Oh for goodness sakes.

You call this genocide...but you seem to have no problem whatsoever with Saudi's bombing Yemeni civilians and contributing to a horrific famine that could kill millions of innocent people. In a war that is NONE of the Saudi Royal Family's business. Just more of their pathetic hatred for all things Shiite.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian-led_intervention_in_Yemen

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/05/middleeast/saudi-arabia-yemen/index.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-continues-to-block-humanitarian-aid-to-yemen


Whereas Assad is trying to take back his country from rebels who took it by force. If the rebels are SOOOO worried about the people in the region's they occupy, they should lay down their arms and allow Assad to take the region back. And then they should try and win Syria through fair elections...not force of arms.

But no, you PASSIONATELY support the Saudi Royal Family. And they HATE Assad (again, mostly for religious reasons) and want him gone. So you clearly want him gone.

Saudi Arabia treats their women like ****, other countries they don't like like ****, cause death, mayhem and repression far and wide in the Middle East.
And yet you turn a blind eye to it all...yet you seem reasonable in every other regard.

I don't know what hold the Saudi Royal Royal has over you (you explained you knew some of them, but it has to be more then just that)...but DANG, is it ever strong.

 

And thank God for them. A little reality is better than sleep walking into WWIII the way they did in WWI.

 

Here's a graduating ceremony for the new Border Protection force in Northern Syria.... snicker


500 US-backed Forces Graduate From Border Protection Training in Northern Syria

https://www.voanews.com/a/forces-graduate-border-protection-training-northern-syria/4180686.html

 

Also, the YPG doesn't even want to establish a kurdish state, the cantons are explicitly multiethnic and against the nation-state

 

Turkey remains the country "in the middle" of just about everything, the cross roads between the East and West. Turkey is no more willing to give up its own country's territory anymore than the USA was ever willing to give up any of its own country - most notably the Civil War.

This leads to the question of how many atomic or nuclear bombs does Turkey have and independently truly control - and what delivery systems does Turkey have? Does Turkey or us control those weapons?

 

I find the problem with territory is taxable income. When it is a land mass, out in the middle of nowhere, it is not worth anything to anyone unless it has resources to be developed. When it is a village or city, there are taxes to be had. If there was a solution where the taxes could be paid to, in part, Turkey, then there would be a way forwards, yes?

Fighting over territory is something our forefathers did, so we do it out of linage and habits, and, relay culture. This is where the territory is merely a strength of your country, that it looks big, or, is like a dead investment, of course.

Attacking the settlers is not the way forwards. Setting up, instead of taxable income directly, through income tax, instead, sales and import and export taxes, could see the Turks fully satisfied with the state of affairs.

 

Turkey has the largest military force in Nato, and one of the largest in the world. The Kurds know how to survive when they're attacked, but in a full combat situation, they would be no match even with US help. It's doubtful though Erdogan will have the courage to move fully, since he's dependent on the US for parts?

It's an interesting scenario though for Russia, watching Nato's most armed member go up against the US supported Kurd border guards.

 

I doubt Turkey has control of the nuclear weapons. More than likely they're in American hands. As for giving up territory, Erdogan was supposed to give the Kurds more rights. Things were going well until he realized he wasn't getting the votes from the Kurd areas that he needed to make himself a sultan, so he had ISIS come in and kill a few Kurds. This restarted the war, and sultan Erdogan got full control of the government.

What he didn't know was that the Kurds were well prepared this time. The last time Erdogan was able to cordon the area and keep reporters out as he gassed the people. This time the roads were all booby trapped, and whenever a police car or military car would approach, it was bye bye birdie.

Because of the revelations made by the head of the Kurdish party, Erdogan's AKP party decided to strip the legislators of immunity from prosecution. This is the fighting that went on before the law was passed, and from what I gather the head of the Kurd party is now in jail.

 

Here's Mattis on attacking the Kurds/crossing the line

29th December

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/n...yrian-anti-kurds-offensive-would-be-a-mistake

Interesting even France signalled their support for Kurdish independence
January 5th

http://www.kurdistan24.net/en/news/71a9eb59-9e28-491b-a31d-bea37a172fff

Early in December the US said it will stop supplying the Kurds instead they will focus on holding territory,

 

Looks real to me. ISIS doesn't have bank accounts and transactions. They need a lot of cash. And it needs to be delivered to them somehow. By air looks to be the most possible and sane option. Not a huge military plane of course. Something smaller is needed.

 

Actually, ISIS do have 'cash' and bank accounts...cryptocurrency ones.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/11/25/isis-parks-its-cash-in-bitcoin-experts-say.html

 

Probably why Turkey wanted to join the EU so urgently - so that EU taxpayers could pay for it? lol

 

Bitcoins as a currency are used for uncontrolled operations with money. But cash is better for terrorists and criminals. Imagine that you have 100 bearded fanatics. You need to pay them while they are in a territory without banks, cash machines and supermarkets. Would you dare to come to these guys (with AK-74s, grenades and all that) saying: "hey guys I'm gonna put some bitcoins to your bank accounts as your monthly salary". I mean in this very case I'd rather pay cash. And I wouldn't underpay these guys to stay alive. I would rather organize some business on them to get these money in exchange for the European girls who come to become 'wives' of sharia warriors, goods etc. Earning this kind of money I would regard purchasing bitcoins. But during the very moment of pay day - I would require cash. In huge quantities, because it is not 100 guys like that and they won't be willing to die for 100 USD a month.

 

The Saudis have been trying to keep the jihadis in Yemen OUT of KSA for 20 years. When you learn something about Yemen get back to me.

 

Oh, come on now. The Yemeni's are broke. Their military is pathetic. And they have been beating themselves to death with wars for decades. They cannot even feed their people properly.

They are no threat whatsoever to the incredibly powerful Saudi military.

Yemen has a large Shia population. That is why the Saudi's are involved...pure and simple. The Saudi Royal Family is known for a hatred of all things Shia. That is why they are so paranoid about Iran. And that is why they hate Assad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawites

Why don't you get back to me when you take off your blinders about the Saudi Royal Family?

 

Can You elighten us about the dates of presidentship of Mansur Hadi and his links to his battle of KSA with jihadists in Yemen (for 20 years I dare to remind). It would be wonderful to listen to Your story.

 

KSA has been propping Yemen up for 40 years or more, but in the past 20 years all sorts of Jihadi extremists have moved into Yemen starting with al Qaeda from Afghanistan. Now they have al Shaabab, Boko Haram, some ISIS (recently) and the Iranian funded al Houthis minority that have taken over the government.

Abdrabbuh Mansur Hadi
Between 4 June and 23 September 2011, Hadi was the acting President of Yemen while Ali Abdullah Saleh was undergoing medical treatment in Saudi Arabia following an attack on the presidential palace during the 2011 Yemeni uprising.

 

They did it once, why not again?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-400-million-cash/

 

Doesn't require "planes full".....

 

Lol.

Anyway, in real news today,

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42687958

Syria war: Turkey denounces US 'terror army' plan for border

Key powers involved in Syria's civil war have criticised US plans to help an allied Kurdish-led militia set up a 30,000-strong "border security force".

Turkey's president vowed to "suffocate" efforts to begin training members of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and create what he called a "terror army".

Ankara considers Kurds fighting for the SDF to be part of a terrorist group.

Syria's government decried the "blatant attack" on its sovereignty, and Russia warned it could lead to partition.

With the help of air strikes from a US-led coalition, the SDF has captured tens of thousands of square kilometres of territory from Islamic State (IS) militants.

In October, the alliance took full control of the northern city of Raqqa, the de facto capital of the "caliphate" declared by the jihadist group in 2014. Since then, SDF fighters have been advancing south-eastwards along the Euphrates river valley.

Why is the US creating the border force?
News of the coalition's plan to work with the SDF to train a new Syrian Border Security Force (BSF) was first reported on Saturday by The Defense Post, which quoted a spokesman as saying that 230 individuals were currently participating in the "inaugural class".

The coalition said on Monday that its goal was to create a force with about 30,000 personnel "over the next several years". About half will be Kurdish and Arab SDF fighters and the other half new recruits.



The BSF will be tasked with securing the long sections of Syria's northern border with Turkey and eastern border with Iraq that are under SDF control, as well as parts of the Euphrates river valley, which effectively serves as the dividing line between the SDF and Syrian pro-government forces.

"A strong border security force will prohibit Daesh's freedom of movement and deny the transportation of illicit materials," the coalition said, using a different term for IS. "This will enable the Syrian people to establish effective local, representative governance and reclaim their land."

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As you can see, these people are only "terrorists" to the dictatorial types, Assad and Erdogan, two strong-men trying to secure power through military muscle and giving not a care for the people who do not wish to be subjected to their undemocratic rule. We're simultaneously standing up for the little guy and combating Daesh in the region. Lavrov complains that we're fostering possible division of Syria, but then the same must be said of Russia for supporting that murderous dictator Assad. Syria is internally divided no matter what at this point. Shame that Russia has chosen the wrong side.

 

This is an ethnic cleansing.. to get rid of as many Sunnis in Syria as possible.

Nothing has been resolved. Assad is still in power. Syria is still broken.. 6 million have fled the country.. a million are dead.. and the constant bombing of Idlib puts another 2.6 million at risk of their lives.