AfD works...how the far right changed the german parliament

The majority of Germans are pacifists thats true. We still remember the consequences of war on our soil and we're aware of the doings of our soldiers on foreign soil and we`re rembered quite often because we still have to clean up the mess from our last war. We still have to get rid of unexploded bombs in our cities frequently, last year 60.000 people had to be evacuated in the inner city of Frankfurt because a British blockbuster was found near the construction site of our university and that's not unusual.

Apart from this Germany and the other EU countries are consolidating their military buildup, the EU, without the UK, has over 1 million soldiers and a budget of 200 billion € and we're working on spending this money far more useful. We have mulitnational brigades, an exchange policy for officers, a planned EU military academy, more coordinated provision of military equipment and as a distant goal an EU army.

Si vis pacem para bellum.

 

Germany isn't important outside of Germany.
Sorry.

Some want it to be. But it isn't.

It's interesting to find out about politics and opinions in different countries, but not necessarily relevant to anything more than human interest. Any time Germany comes even close to controlling Europe it gets nuked, the Germans know this and keep their heads down. It's a non event country. Contained
Nationally and culturally interesting but internationally/geopoliticaly irrelevant.

 

In what sense is it a world power, what parts of the world outside of Germany itself is it wielding power over?

Look at the news, Syria, Israel, Korea, Libya, Ukraine. Where is Germany? No where.
Power is not centred in Germany, There is no UN or EU or Cambridge or Harvard. It's all elsewhere.
It leads the world in nothing. No NASA or Microsoft or Google. No F1. No Beatles or Rock'n'roll, No Hollywood. No Bollywood.
Global leaders in absolutely nothing at all. Car making perhaps. Football from time to time.

World power my arse. They hold no influence. They have changed nothing.
Blind to what? one of Sobo's rants?

What is it in your life that German people are causing you to do?
Nothing in mine. They don't even make the news.

 

A majority of Europeans want a total ban on immigration from Muslim countries. 51% in Germany. No surprise that parties like AfD are gaining support.

 

Of course it is true that there are no German armored divisions stationed on the other side of the planet, no German aircraft carriers visiting foreign ports, above all, no German Bomb.

To what extent the existing armies of Europe could fight a serious war without American support is open to question. I believe that even the intervention in the former Yugoslavia required American transport.

But .... keep in mind America itself, in the 1930s. A world-class navy, but not much of an army. Not really a country obsessed with military glory, or highly experienced in peer-to-peer warfare. No matter.

As Churchill put it, upon hearing the news of the attack on Pearl Harbor, which would now inevitably bring the US into the war ...

Silly people, and there were many, not only in enemy countries, might discount the force of the United States. Some said they were soft, others that they would never be united. They would fool around at a distance. They would never come to grips. They would never stand bloodletting. Their democracy and system of recurrent elections would paralyse their war effort. They would be just a vague blur on the horizon to friend or foe. Now we should see the weakness of this numerous but remote, wealthy, and talkative people. But I had studied the American Civil War, fought out to the last desperate inch. American blood flowed in my veins. I thought of a remark which Edward Grey had made to me more than thirty years before—that the United States is like ‘a gigantic boiler. Once the fire is lighted under it there is no limit to the power it can generate.
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And so it turned out to be. Churchill said that one German soldier was worth three of the Allies. But the Allies had more than three, and logistics to match.

Germany is a powerful economy. If it wanted to, it could sustain a powerful military. Whether the national will to do so is there, should it be required, I don't know.

 

Not at all

Germanys internal politics are none of my business and I dont need to comment on them

Sobo on the other hand posts his opinions on American politics all the time

But as a german how we conduct our government is none of his business either

 

The United States GDP in nearly 6 times higher than Germany. Germany only ranks 4th. You did not even get the bronze medal, try again. It takes the GDP of China, Japan, and Germany to get out the United States GDP. To say the United States does not matter is delusional at best.

 

You have gigantic debt, run on a massive trade deficit and have gargantuan poverty and crime levels similar to Afghanistan.

We have a 40 billion € budget surplus, make no debt since years, are export worldmaster and have an everlasting economic boom and virtually no unemployment.

We obviously do something right.

Now go and work so your tax money is spend on our defense. Dude you get ****ed over and applaud to it.

 

i'm sure those who trade with Germany care about their trade with Germany.

 

Much more to do with economics. However as GMB says - 'no more investigation?'. Fascists ignore the issues and just concentrate on the 'other' blaming them for everything and belieivng if they can just get rid of 'them' everything will be alright but there are very genuine problems going on which need to be sorted.

That is a funny one. Brexit is the most likely thing to end the UK!

 

Pretty much bullshit.

We have zero problems with immigrants from Vietnam, China, Japan, Italy or Spain.

Arabs and Turks are not able to integrate into German society and because of that have to go. Its that easy.

We wont allow that globalist elites ruin our gerat nation with importing 3rd worlders.

 

No. East Germany as you describe it is simply racist like it was in the 30's. Incidentally there has also been a massive increase in attacks on Jews and their properties in Germany and 93% of these attacks were made by extreme right Germans.

I know. Heard it all before from your grandparents - look where that got you.

 

Wrong, the Attacks were done by arabs.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/muslim-migrants-behind-rise-in-antisemitism-rxdsjx2vt

So put your disgusting lies where no sun shines.

Do you count Bavaria also as racist? The AfD had massive wins there as well.

Where it got us? Leader of Europe. My grandparents were born after WW II.

Is french president Macron also a NAzi for you? He stands 100% for AfD positions. Same counts for the italian government and spain.

You know what makes me happy`? It must hurt you alot that your precious africans are now trapped in Libya and sold on slave markets since Germany stopped letting all this hordes in.

The harder the treatment there the better.

btw Israel knows how to deal with them. I Hope the subject in your picture gets the full package. And as far as i know Israel her family will as well.

 

i agree

 

I can't read that. It was only this week I was reading what I said that 93% of attacks in Germany on Jews were done by far right Germans and the way you have described they act towards Muslim refugees I have no doubt believing this.

But I will have a look. This is 2015

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-Germany-more-than-any-country-in-Europe.html

That was 2015. Now here is last year.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/far-right-driving-german-anti-semitism-government-says/

so as I said, seen it all before, heard it all before and well aware of how it ended last time.

Of course as they say in that article the far right try to blame the Refugees.

 

Is Merkel far right for you?

As i said, no need to debate this further.

Just watch how your prechious migrants get beaten up in Libya now.




Migrant numbers to Europe collapsed by over 95% during last year. Thanks to AfD in Germany. Thanks for FPÖ in Austria. Thanks to Lega Nord in Italy. Thanks to Front National in France.

For 25 years they said it would also be impossible to deport lebanese criminals from germany back to the shithole they came from.

Guess what...now that AfD is in parliament the deportations start. And its good to see them suffer. Let Allah help them.

 

Then don't. I just produced for you numbers for both 2015 and 2017 which say that the Far Right in Germany carry out the vast amount of attacks on Jews -92% for 2017.

You came in being insulting because I said that fascists do not like to look into things. They like instead to blame the 'other' and I said that there were things which needed to be addressed. That is when you came in being rude. I have now shown you that what I said was right. As you say no need for further debate. Fascists do not look at Global difficulties and see a problem which has to be faced and overcome. They just blame the other. End of Western Liberal Democracy. simple as that.

 

Western Liberal Democracy gave Germany massive rise in crimes and political instability.

We allowed 1 million savages in. This ended now. And i´m proud for this.

Those africans are arabs are not our business. Nobody can force us to be hero of the world and let millions in and become a shithole like them.

They can go to hell.

 

Right. You haven't achieved this yet but you are at least being honest about your intent.

Nothing to do with being a hero. I would never expect that of the far right. Makes no difference to you, You will be able to kill any you do not like but if your intent is as you say to destroy Western Liberal Society and take us back to the 1930's, I am not sure it will go your way. We either do take responsibility for our actions in the world or we all live in a lawless way and need to accept the consequences.

 

AfD is a symptom, not a cause. 2008 was the beginning of a running change in the German conscience. Your relationship to Russia and to the EU have been thrown into question all around the continent, and the result was a discrediting of your political elite. The fracturing of the EU will impact no country so much as Germany, not just economically but spiritually.

 

and they had only been United since 1990. East Germany did little to gain any conscious understanding of what happened in the 30's.

 

It gets better and better. How many 3rd worlders should we let in? 1 million? 30 million?

Our responsibility is border protection.

 

AfD made masisve gains in Baden-Württemberg and Bavaria. In Bavaria it threatens the traditional ruling CSU party. Thats the reason the CSU goes far right now as well. You say now Bavaria is eastern Germany too?

 

I have never said you should bring in any. However your Chancellor made what I think was a mistake when she let so many in. Now you need to deal with them as Germany is doing. You however though having no refugees in your area chase any who come in out of town or destroy accommodation for them and so on. Your pride is on being able to harm more vulnerable people and as you said on trying to have a pure race or however you put it. That is the root of your problem.

 

More vulnerable people?

last week 3 young syrian refugees pushed a 46 old german women aside and demandd "respect". They then wanted to stab her. It was then that bystanders went in and hunted this scum out of town.

Our elites would not have stopped all this madness if the AfD would not have such massive gains in elections.

The root of our problem is that we now have one million savages run free in Germany. They will go or we make them go.