AfD works...how the far right changed the german parliament

I do not believe any of your rantings while also accepting that there are some people who will be crazy. That is one of the reasons it was insane to take in so many people at one time without having made proper arrangements to look after them properly. Refugees who were received into Scotland were properly looked after and they have caused no problems at all. There is now also a lot of agro towards refugees in Germany which obviously will make it difficult for them to integrate and feel well towards you. On the other hand others who have been treated well have massive gratitude and will give back a lot. Merkel is responsible for the situation Germany is in. Obviously there was no possibility of making preparations before but how you act now will determine how things are in the future.

That was the decision of your chancellor on behalf of the people of Germany. She was your representative. Now you are responsible for taking on that responsibility or your name will be in the mud again. I am pretty sure change which could be made had been made prior to the election. Soros made an excellent paper on what Europe needs to deal with but looks like the EU has ignored it.

 

Oh we will take our responsibilty for our great nation. They will go. We deport back to Syria. No integration is needed. They have no future here. Conditions are already so hard on them, many leave of themself.

I want them to fear and hate us. Ad they get evry day our disgust towards them. If eyes could kill, they would drop dead.

 

That must make you feel so big.

and here we are back when we started talking and back to 1930's Germany and your desire to destroy Western Liberal Democracy.

Clearly however you are such aggressive violent monsters towards them that you have no right to complain about anything they do. Hope your pure race is worth it Sobo because you are going to be fighting wars all your life - or rather till you are defeated. It was supposed to have been done in 45. Guess allowing you to become united to the West again was a big mistake.

 

No Alexa. We go back 2000 years in history. Thats how we treat invaders. We hated the romans, hated the mongols and now hate the invaders from Syria. I dont care what they do or want to do. This is our nation. They have no place here and never will have a place here.

 

No you don't. You go back to the 1930's. You want to continue that. We shall see if you are allowed. Frankly you are nothing. People who believe they are brave because they can harm people more vulnerable than them are the biggest cowards there are. Germany worked much better when divided. I imagine that will be the case again in a few years.

P.S I remember reading a book on Germany by Erich Fromm in the 80's. He said give them a chance and they would be exactly the same again. Looks like he was right.

 

What a load of rubbish.

 

All those parasites are not vulnerable. They will be needed to rebuild Syria.

We are allowed Alexa. We changed politics in Germany. We saved our nation from this madness amd im proud for that.

 

As many as it takes to raise the gene pool.

 

Not as funny as that. The UK met its death with the unlimited 3rd world migration policies of Blair. Many neighborhoods in Britain are unrecognizable. British Pubs, a mainstay of British society, have closed up shop and left. Many of the boroughs and counties resemble a Middle Eastern or North African enclave with its inhabitants dressed more for the deserts of Arabia than the confines of the U.K.. Streets burgeon with throngs of Islamic prayer participants.

No, Brexit is not the most likely thing to end the UK. Mass migration and cultural replacement without the people's consent have already done that. The song "There's No England Anymore" by the Kinks speaks volumes.

However, as the Hindu saying goes "With one door closing, another opens." For the millions of Brits who voted "leave", that other door is optimistically open.

 

Of course it is. The Scots are more likely to leave post-Brexit than before, and English-Northern Irish tensions haven't run higher for a very long time.

 

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Deprived of EU membership the Scottish will hold a new independence referendum and this time vote to break up the UK. <Mod Edit>

@Concord you have zero chance of breaking Northern Ireland away from the UK, they are uber patriots, Uber unionists. The most loyal Brits of us all.
Barking up the wrong tree with that one.

Ireland leaving the EU however, a significant possibility.
Trade with the UK > trade with the rest of the EU combined. If the EU acts punitavely to British trade, Ireland (and Belgium) have little choice but to leave.
The country is quite divided on EU membership and has already once lost a referendum to be a part of it.

 

Germany does matter. You wouldn't know it living in Bumf*ck, USA, though. We tend to be rather insular and have our heads far up our asses in the US of A.

 

I am quite sure there are some extremely decent people in East Germany. Here I am simply going on how Sobo has described things and how he has boasted about ill treating Refugees. I do notice that people from Germany come from different positions. I would though have thought that yours was similar to that of Sobo.

 

I think that "British" as a national identity is going to weaken over the near future.

It's hard for me to see the UK surviving Scottish independence, if it occurs. No doubt though that Brexit has increased the odds, at least in the near term.

Maybe. The Irish gain less than just about any other EU member as a result of membership.

 

There's going to be a lot of this as political power structures consolidate and grow more global, which they are bound to do in the modern world. Like it or not, nation states are destined to go the way of the fiefdom, duchy, etc. The EU is an example of how this will come about. Those nations which fail to act proactively will eventually be overshadowed and swallowed up by other conglomerates.

 

There's no reason to believe any of this. When push really comes to shove, conglomerates are hard to keep together. The USSR made it really easy to keep people on the same page, but the last 10 years have been the peoples of the Earth learning what a post-Soviet world is likely to look like. Not the globalist "End of History" but a return to some form of normalcy. History's moving again, in a sense.

 

I'm thinking Scottish independence is basically settled for a generation now. That's my best guess.
If British as a national identity is weakening, N Ireland is the last place it will go.

I think the Irish gain a lot form EU membership. Offshore haven status. Grants etc..
They may have voted not to join the EU the first time, but equally they voted to join on the second.
I don't expect them to leave the EU any time soon, although without British backing, their off shore haven status is targeted and without diplomatic ally.
I couldn't predict to be quite honest. Possible. Not necessarily "likely".

 

Yes, the EU has an active agenda to de-nation it's member states and create a new nation of the EU to replace them.
In my opinion, this results in civil war. The birth of a nation starts that way typically.
My greater expectation is that the EU's relevance will just sort of fizzle out.

Interestingly Sobo views the EU as an extension of Germany.
I think he described it as the "new holy germanic empire"
I wonder if the French do?

 

I'm thinking specifically about trade benefits. Whereas the EU is a necessity for countries like Germany, the Irish will get along just fine with frayed trade agreements with continentals.

The EU will survive for a long time as an institution, but it will never be what it's proponents hope for.

 

But there is a reason. Progress, especially in technology, is virtually shrinking the world. Economies are actively becoming more global, as are politics. It is a process we are in the midst of. Being in that situation, I can understand people failing to recognize it, but bear in mind that the modern map of the world mostly came into being as recently as the 19th and 20th century as old empires died and great wars heralded political upheavals. Political structures are constantly evolving with the times and with technology. That technology homogenizes cultures, that is, makes us all increasingly similar and interconnected. We're already able to communicate in real time with anyone just about anywhere on Earth. Soviet, post-Soviet, these are minor blips in the vast history of our political development. We must expect further changes and upheavals to come. There is no "normalcy" in the real world, only the idea of it as an idea towards which we strive.

 

To Tump this up a bit, Ireland is a shithole country. Empoverished agricultural economy.
EU membership boomed it's economy by hosting American/global companies who needed to house in the EU to be allowed to trade there.
Leaving the EU will come at a big price to them. I don't think they will volunteer for it in a hurry.

Your assessment of the EU's future mirrors my own prediction.

 

Really? You want to give some sourced details of this. You do realise that the problems with EU migration is white East Europeans I hope.

Oh I love it. You believe the problem is because East Europeans are all Muslims and do not drink. Well though they may not drink as much as some Scottish - and English, both of whom have a habit of drinking too much - come to think of it N.Irish and Welsh as well, East Europeans do like a drink or two as well. I think you will find that the reason for the closure of pubs is the ban on smoking in them.

Even if this was true what on earth does it have to do with Brexit?

Living on a Thin Line was written in 1984. At the time the White Nationalist Skinheads were certainly trying to intimidate and beat up any 'Paki's' they could find. I hadn't known before that the kinks were racist. I was living at the time in London. This is just 3 years after the Brixton Riots. I was working in Brixton then....and of course Broadwater Farm was in 85 just one year after the release of this Kinks song. Yes, that was certainly a time when Britain had to look at itself and the issue of racism. However the enemy then was 'blacks' - not sure if the skinheads went after them. At the time people from Pakistan were trying to integrate and tended to be quite passive but our Afro Caribbean's were not. Get started on them and they likely would hit back so I am sure the skinheads only went for the odd one that they found alone. The UK does not need another far right Party as we have the Tories and the right wing of the Tories contains a sleeper cell of far right extremists ready to wake up if the time is right. Give them plane fares home was their call. However enquiries into things discovered that base of the problem was racism. London then got started on massive action to heal this. I was also to some extent involved in working on that through my work. Ken Livingstone was Mayor of London and London got working on whole scale education of people on racism - something which eventually seemed to drift through to the rest of the UK.

So what ya doing bringing up the racism of the 80's. You an old English skinhead WN living in the US now?

 

This would be Ken Livingstone the Anti-semite?
LOL. A funny person to blame for the end of racism. He's more commonly attributed with promoting it.

But yes, first blacks, then paki's, now pollacks.
As each wave of immigration arrives, tensions/assimilation has occurred.

So far so good in my opinion.

 

No doubt. Sounds like a recipe for more, not less conflict, in my book.

I don't think it's just that politics are becoming more global, I think that peoples who before had absolutely no say in politics are integral players. Kurds in Iraq and in Turkey can communicate at any instant, people are finding pride in languages that decades ago bore shame.

To be in close and constant contact does not always mean harmony, countries of the former Yugoslavia can attest.

 

LMAO!.....sticks and stones. When finished with the dialogues, consider reading "Fallacious Argumentation"; can't remember the author. (see ad hominem)

Was wondering when the expressing of an alternative point of view would result in the tired and laughable name calling of skinhead and racist. My only question: “What took you so long?”