Why did Trump collaborate with the Russian government?

This old, tired, thing again?
Have you people not gotten tired of being wrong?

Go ahead. Prove money laundering. I'll wait.

 

Trump has trashed his own STAFF members who never attacked him...but Putin?

Putin can do no wrong.

But disturbingly...what you're saying is that a foreign leader bent on harming the US can do so with immunity as long as he "whispers sweet nothings" in Trumps' ear?

That's pretty scary

 

There's been plenty of money laundering...in Trump's buildings...by Russian criminals.

That's fact. Whether Mueller ties it to Trump or his associates remains to be seen

 

You know you have no ability whatsoever to prove this statement true.
Calling your statement a fact is just another example of you making a statement you know is false.
But then, that's the only way you can make a point.

 

This is similar to what Sam Harris has said about Trump.

 

Exactly what part of that do you dispute?

Money laundering by Russian criminals?

Russian criminals using Trump properties to launder that money?

Those are facts and I'll gladly prove them if you need that

 

The truth of your claim. You cannot show any of it to be true.

 

Wrong.

 

Why did Trump collaborate with the Russian government? Why, to become president, of course. In fact, if Trump had not collaborated with the Russian government, Hillary Clinton would now be president. Indeed, if the Russian government had not tricked millions of American voters out of voting for Hillary, Clinton would now be president. What's more, If Robert Muller finds so many as even one of those voters who were tricked out of voting for Hillary by the Trump/Russia collusion, well, there'll be hell to pay I tell you. There'll be hell to pay.

 

The quotes below show a considerable amount of ignorance, but I will try to address them patiently and without rancor.

Russia is an aggressor nation. She invaded the Ukraine in 2013, and annexed part of that nation, Crimea, in 2014. She maintains a military force in eastern Ukraine. Russia sides with the murderous dictator in Syria, Bashar Al-Assad. The U.S. and Russia is fighting a proxy war in Syria. Russia is an ally of Iran, and provides her with military and nuclear hardware. Russia is North Korea's ally.

According to our intell agencies, Russia interfered in our 2016 elections on Trump's behalf.

We engaged Russia (Soviet Union) in the Cold War from approximately 1950 to 1992. Putin has dreams of resurrecting the Soviet Empire. The collapse of the Soviet Union is his worst nightmare. http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...adimir-putin-call-breakup-ussr-greatest-geop/

See Cold War. See Korean War. See Vietnam War. See Soviet/Afghan War. See Syrian Civil War.

The question is a non sequitur. There is no law saying Iran is a hostile power. Are you suggesting Iran is not a hostile power, too? The same is true concerning North Korea.

That statement is pure nonsense and reflects the strong Trumpian urge to avoid reality. In the Trumpian mind, avoiding reality means not having to deal with it. The tactic is used quite often.

You should have said "from the Russian government." Again, you are avoiding reality. That is what Goldtone's email said, not "Russians."

There are a few federal laws, including FEC laws, that forbid receiving something of value from any foreign power, not just a hostile power.

I hope you have learned something today.

 

I would like to hear more about this. What are you talking about?

Review the OP. True, as I said, the money laundering allegations are not evidence, but they suggest where Mueller is going with this and, for all we know, he has the hard evidence. You don't know, and neither do I.

I am merely suggesting that money laundering with the Russian mafia would explain why Trump got involved with the Russian government. If true, Putin can, and has, extorted Trump. Strong evidence suggests that Putin got Trump to work with the Russian government during the election campaign.

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump.

Shouldn't you be concerned about that possibility? Look at the OP again.

Yep, as usual, nothing here. Just more banter for a Trumpian trying desperately to avoid the truth.

 

Ronstar suggested a military coup or a foreign invasion if legal means of removing Trump are not warranted. He had a thread about it.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/foreign-invasion-to-stop-trump.520097/

http://politicalforum.com/index.php...al-class-permit.508850/page-5#post-1067694204

 

There have been four Congressional investigations over the past year. Since May, there has been a special prosecutor investigating the matter. Neither Congress nor Mueller have released their findings.

In the meantime, over the past year, there have been developments. I have reported those developments.

Do you have a problem with that? If so, what is it? Are you questioning my dedication? If so, why?

If we have a President who is being extorted by the Russian government, is that not a cause for concern?

If we have a President guilty of collaboration with a hostile foreign power and obstruction of justice, is that not a matter of concern?

 

Thank you for answering my question.

I am not sure what he meant by a foreign invasion. That doesn't make much sense to me. In any case, that's nuts.

Ronstar knows it, too. In his later reply, he talked about impeachment or the 25th Amendment, not a military coup.

In any case, I agree with him. Should Trump ever decide on a preemptive strike on the Korean Peninsula, his order should be ignored and he be removed from office.

 

Supposedly, our relations with Russia are getting chillier. That's a White House ruse. It's all rhetoric. Nothing has happened to support that assertion. We've given Syria to Russia. We do nothing when Russia supports North Korea and Iran. Aggression in Ukraine is all but forgotten. Trump still insists there was no collusion and that Russian interference in our election is a Democratic hoax.

 

It's the carrot and the stick.

The stick is exposure for money laundering and probably collusion.
The carrot?

Certainly the Presidency is a desirable thing. Too bad Trump never realized how hard that job is...if you actually DO it (which he for the most part is NOT doing)

 

This has absolutely nothing to do with this thread.

You are reminded, Comey is responsible for Trump's election victory.

If you want to string up Clinton, be my guest. I don't care. This is about Trump, money laundering, collaboration with the enemy, and obstruction of justice, not Hillary's emails.

Why do you insist on making yourself look foolish?

 

I have. It is pretty damning and the reason for this thread.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/world/russia-money-laundering-deadline-missed/index.html

Russian money laundering...in real estate

 

You will notice, I never use the term, "collusion," because it has been discredited and Trumpians like telling us collusion is not a crime. I prefer the term, "collaboration." It sounds sinister and has more effect.

That said, "collusion" is a crime. It is called conspiracy.

Thank you for your contribution.

 

All the libs have is that sad, dead horse, but they just keep dragging it out and beating the snot out of it, then jump up and down screaming "It moved, see... ummmmm..... yeah, I'm sure it moved"

 

Wow! Trumpians are weak in defense of Trump. Tiny, meaningless blurbs, that's all they have, everyone of them. Some want to change the subject to Obama, Clinton, Comey, or the FBI, anyone but Trump.

What's scary is, these people vote.

 

All you have is a conspiracy theory.

 

Conspiracy, collusion, or collaboration, whatever you care to call it, none has been found between Russia-Trump,or his campaign. However, we have found all kinds of Russian, United Kingdom collusion on the Democrat side, both in the Clinton campaign and the DNC. And it appears we have conspiracy between the 0bama administration and the Clinton campaign.

So... you go right ahead and keep beating that dead horse, because the only stuffings come out of it have "DEMOCRATS" written all over it.

 

Looks like Putin went gay and really likes Schumer.


While President Obama was taking part in a global nuclear security summit in South Korea, he was caught on tape asking for Russian President Dmitry Medvedev for "space." "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility," Obama implored. Obama assured the departing Russian President he will have the "flexibility" required to deal with missile defense issues after the 2012 presidential election.

Obama seemed to be as confident that he was going to win reelection in 2012 as Hillary was that she was going to win in 2016.
I wonder what went wrong ?