Why did Trump collaborate with the Russian government?

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  1. TCassa89

    TCassa89 Well-Known Member

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    So 4 people from the campaign haven't been indicted for illegal activities done under Russian national interest?
     
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    Activities NOT connected with the Trump campaign.
     
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    In order.

    Yes
    Because it is destructive to the future ability to govern this country.
    Yes.
    Because it reeks of opportunism and fundamental dishonest and hypocrisy on your part.
    No.
    No.
     
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    So campaign officials meetings with Russian officials to gather dirt on their electoral opponent is not something connected to the campaign?
     
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    I like the collaboration. Yes quisling indeed.
     
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    When you start an argument with a false premise, you fail.
    Congratulations, your thread was shot down by a tiny blurb
     
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    No, he mentioned a military coup if legal means of removing a president were not warranted.
     
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    Nothing illegal happened until they lied about it. Thats why they were charged with lying, not anything to do with the neetings.
     
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  11. Sandy Shanks

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    There was a stunning barrage of revelations on Tuesday suggesting that Mueller's Russia probe is racing toward its end game and emphasizing the gravity of the situation facing the White House and Trump's potential vulnerability.
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    Mueller's request to question Trump, and news that his team has already interviewed fired FBI Director James Comey and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, indicate that the special counsel has a clear picture of where he is headed in what could turn into an obstruction of justice case.

    "It's possible that Mueller is closing in on his determination about what obstruction looks like, whether it is a criminal offense in his mind, whether it is an impeachable offense, or whether it amounts to nothing," Michael Zeldin, a former senior aide to Mueller at the Justice Department, said.

    FBI Director Christopher Wray threatened to quit after coming under pressure from Sessions, to clean out senior leadership figures dating from the Comey era who Trump believes are biased against him.

    Rick Gates, the former Trump campaign staffer who pleaded not guilty in October to eight charges of money laundering and failing to register as a foreign lobbyist, may be ready to cooperate with Mueller.
     
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    NBC News reports, "A year ago today, President Donald Trump’s newly sworn–in national security adviser, Michael Flynn, met privately in his West Wing office with FBI investigators interested in his communications with Russia's ambassador, without a lawyer or the knowledge of the president and other top White House officials, according to people familiar with the matter.

    "Flynn's FBI interview on Jan. 24, 2017, set in motion an extraordinary sequence of events unparalleled for the first year of a U.S. presidency. Flynn was fired as national security adviser after 24 days on the job, the acting attorney general was fired 10 days after the president took office, the FBI director was allegedly pressured by the president to let go of an investigation into Flynn, and then eventually fired himself.

    "The attorney general recused himself from a federal investigation into Russia's meddling in the 2016 U.S. election and possible collusion with the sitting president's campaign, and a special counsel was appointed.

    "The developments ensnared the president in an obstruction of justice inquiry, which resulted in his top intelligence and law enforcement chiefs cooperating in some form with that probe."
     
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    The facts are in evidence. You simply have to read them. The only defense you can manage is to ignore reality. That is not much of a defense.

    Since Mueller has not proven that Trump is guilty of collaboration with the enemy ... yet, the question is a hypothetical one.
     
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    Not the facts assumed by you in your question, however.
     
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    You have no proof of that claim whatsoever. All you know is that thy lied to the FBI.

    Why in the hell would someone lie to the FBI knowing what the penalty for getting caught doing that would be?

    What were they hiding? Why were they hiding it?
     
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    That's actually huge. Manafort and Gates were essentially joined at the hip.
     
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    You know, if you took what you call evidence to a court of law, the judge would probably have you removed from court, for not understanding what evidence is.
     
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    That they were charged with lying and nothing else is evidence that they could not be charged with anything else. Mueller would love to charge someone with collusion with russia. lol Where have you been, to have missed that? For it would be great if mueller could charge someone with the given reason for this investigation to begin with. lol
     
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    Like many always Trumpettes, you are in for a surprise when Mueller's work is done. While you're contemplating that, please answer what Don's reluctance to testify before Mueller is based on?
     
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    None of this drivel negates the truth in my post - but thanks for playing.
     
  21. Sandy Shanks

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    Yup, you said it. Despite Russia's annexation of Crimea, alliance with Assad, Iran, and North Korea and her interference in our election, Putin and Trump are buddies. Does that tell you anything?

    Your assistance is appreciated.
     
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    Dude they don't go out of their way to insult each other. that scarcely makes them best buds and Putin took Crimea on Obama's watch not Trump's. What do you want him to do launch nukes? And please note Crimea has been a Russian province for most of its history post Napoleon. It was Stalin gave it to Ukraine
     
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    There is no truth in your post. Did you really think there was?
     
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    Why in the hell would someone lie to the FBI knowing what the penalty for getting caught doing that would be?

    What were they hiding? Why were they hiding it?
     
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    Absolutely there is -- in his question, he presumes his prejudiced opinion is fact; as such his question is, at best, dishonest.
    Feel free to show otherwise.
     

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