Why you can’t ban AR-15s

Footnote do you guys remember the TV show on the Discovery channel by the name of sons of a guns that cover a family of gun smiths and the guns they product.

Love that show and it too bad for a number of reasons that the main star of that show turn out to be a damn pedophile including his own daughters and is going to spend the rest of his life in prison.

 

To be fair, who on the left is saying that they specifically want to ban the AR-15? Don't they want to ban ALL AR's?

 

Not a smith, but experienced with firearms and I know that there's no mechanical adjustment to speed up or slow down a semi-automatic's rate of fire. The ROF is wholly dependent on the speed in which the shooter pulls the trigger. a cheap, low powered cartridge may slow the cycle a fraction, but it would be imperceptible.

 

I am willing to bet that you never owned a Browning .22 "automatic"

 

Feral hogs are very destructive to the environment in parts of the US. I am looking forward to this summer hunting them from a helicopter with my AR 15. Doesn't make me a criminal.

 

LOL it is so unlikely that for all practice purposes it surely can be rule out.

In our history we had been the invaders not the other way around.

 

No not a criminal but surely not a sportman of any type in my opinion.

Shooting animals from the air indeed as that seems very similar to the mass shootings of Buffalo herds from the comforts of trains a hundred years ago.

 

It does put unarmed citizens at risk of dying though because of the mentally idiotic. Which is unfortunate given that most American gun owners are likely responsible citizens. I think you'll all need to find a way to keep these weapons out of the hands of hostile individuals at least.

 

That is the issue with that Constitution. It was originally made for people of the 1700's. They gave no thought to social change or advances in technology.

 

By the way if you wish the thrill of flying fast near the ground without the need of spraying the country side with bullets I would suggest paying for a ride in a crop duster.

I remember doing so right after watching a crop duster flying under electric lines as I floated down under a parachute.

Lord those pilots are both good and crazy to do that job.

 

They really need a set in stone, legal definition for what an assault weapon is.

1; Any weapon capable of a full-auto or multi-burst firing rate, regardless of whether the weapon was built with that capability or if it comes from an attachment or accessory.
2; Any weapons which is built with, or which are capable of using a suppressor, grenade (or other explosive) launcher, flash hider, or other tactical attachments and accessories, which are usable only in a offensive combat situation, and have no legitimate use for hunting, home defense, or other civilian uses. .

 

Lol apparently my part involves conceding that you’re right and my viewpoint is completely invalid. Once I accept that we can start to have a real conversation? Fabulous.

 

Can’t ban a whole class of firearms.

 

Armalite Rifles? That’s what AR stands in AR-15.

 

You could do the same with a bolt or lever action rifle

 

They banned machine guns...that's a whole "class"

Here we go now with semantics. Those made before 1986 are heavily regulated...those after are banned. Distinction without a difference. Put all semi-autos in that same "class".

 

Well that tells you how much I know about guns, (I thought AR was Assualt Rifle) but who on the left wants a ban on just the 15? Don't they want a ban on all assault rifles?

 

We need to be honest in this country and quit playing games with the names of these weapons in favor of the actual issue. We have allowed our society to normalize murder in favor of our toys and even to the level of losing our children. When Lawn Darts killed several kids we removed them from the market for sale and no more kids got impaled. No one complained because they didn't play lawn darts or own a silver tipped luxury set.
Over a 10-year period, 6,700 people in the U.S. were treated in hospital for injuries from lawn darts. 75 per cent of those were children. Three of the children died.

And Yet:

2016

• January 22, 2016 – Indianapolis, Indiana (Injuries 1) A 15-year-old male was shot in the leg and injured during a night-time basketball game at Lawrence Central High School.
• January 29, 2016 – Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (Deaths/Injuries 0) A gunshot was fired during a fight in a stairwell at Franklin High School, and no injuries were reported. Three people were detained.
• February 9, 2016 – Muskegon Heights, Michigan (Injuries 4) Four people, including two students, were injured during a basketball game event in the parking lot of Muskegon Heights High School.
• February 12, 2016 – Glendale, Arizona (Deaths 2) Two 15-year-old girls died in an apparent Murder-Suicide at Independence High School.
• February 29, 2016 – Middletown, Ohio (Injuries 4) 15-year-old Cameron Smith, and 14-year-old Cooper Caffrey, were shot when 14-year-old James Austin Hancock, opened fire in the Madison High School cafeteria with a .380 caliber handgun. 15-year-old Brant Murray, and 14-year-old Katherine ******tte, also suffered shrapnel injuries. Hancock was apprehended in a nearby wooded field.
• April 23, 2016 – Antigo, Wisconsin (Deaths 1, Injuries 2)Two students at a prom at Antigo High School were shot and injured by 18-year-old former student Jakob Wagner. Wagner later exchanged fire with a school resource officer in the school's parking lot, and was captured after being shot and wounded by police. He died hours later in a hospital.
• June 8, 2016 – Dorchester, Massachusetts (Deaths 1, Injuries 3) One student was killed and three other individuals were injured when gunfire erupted outside of the Jeremiah Burke High School following a fire-alarm causing an evacuation of the school. Two suspects have been arrested.
• September 9, 2016 – Alpine, Texas (Deaths 1, Injuries 2) A 14-year-old female student shot a 16-year-old girl in an Alpine High School restroom before committing suicide. A police officer accidentally shot another officer during the incident.
• September 28, 2016 – Townville, South Carolina (Deaths 2, Injuries 2)
  Townville Elementary School shooting: Two students and one teacher were wounded after a teen opened fire at Townville Elementary School. The suspect's father was found dead at his home soon after the shooting. One of the victims, six-year-old Jacob Hall, died 3 days after the shooting
• October 11, 2016 – Mobile, Alabama (Injuries 1) A student was shot in the abdomen and wounded at Vigor High School. The suspect, a 16-year-old boy, turned himself in and was charged with assault.
• October 13, 2016 – Columbus, Ohio (Injuries 2) Two students were shot and wounded on the front lawn of Linden McKinley STEM Academy. One was shot in the shoulder, and the other shot in the chest, and were hospitalized in stable condition.
• October 18, 2016 – San Francisco, California (Injuries 4) Four students were shot outside June Jordan High School for Equity, a San Francisco public high school. One female victim was in critical condition, while three male victims suffered minor injuries. Two people were arrested in the shooting.
• October 25, 2016 – Sandy, Utah (Injuries 1) Police say the two teens ages 14 and 16 were involved in a confrontation on the far north end of Union Middle School. The boys got into an argument. The argument lead to a shooting. The 14 year old shot the 16 year old twice. He was sent to the hospital in critical but stable condition.
• December 1, 2016 – Bountiful, Utah (Deaths/Injuries 0) At Mueller Park Junior High School, a 15-year-old student fired one shot into the ceiling and then pointed the weapon at his own neck. The student was confronted verbally by a teacher and another student and later arrested in possession of a shotgun, a handgun, and ammunition for each.

2017

• January 20, 2017 – West Liberty, Ohio (Injuries 1) A 17-year-old student was charged with attempted murder and other crimes after bringing a gun to West Liberty-Salem High School and firing two shots at 17-year-old student in a bathroom with a shotgun. The victim was injured. The student was "also is accused of discharging the weapon in the school’s hallway before returning to the bathroom, where he was eventually taken into custody."
• March 21, 2017 – King City, California (Injuries 1) An 18-year-old: King City High School student was shot outside the school's auditorium. The gunman ran across the school's campus and baseball field, and fled the area. The school was then placed on lockdown. The victim was hospitalized with life-threatening injuries. A suspect was arrested in August 2017.
• April 10, 2017 – San Bernardino, California (Deaths 3, Injuries 1) North Park Elementary School shooting: Cedric Anderson, age 53, of Riverside, California, died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound after shooting and killing his estranged wife, Karen Elaine Smith, age 53, in a classroom. An eight-year-old student was also fatally shot, and a seven-year-old student was injured.
• September 13, 2017 – Rockford, Washington (Deaths 1, Injuries 3) Freedman High School: Three students injured and one killed after a shooter opened fire. The suspect, a 15-year-old student, was taken into police custody.
• September 20, 2017 – Mattoon, Illinois (Injuries 1) Mattoon High School: A 14-year-old male student was subdued by a female teacher when he attempted to open fire in the school cafeteria at 11:33 a.m. Multiple shots were fired in the process, and one student was struck in the chest and was driven to a nearby hospital suffering non-life-threatening wounds. The student was taken into custody without further incident.

 

They are not banned. You can purchase one.

 

Therein lies the rub. They are just rifles so how to distinguish between one rifle and the next.

 

Only if manufactured before 1986

http://abcnews.go.com/US/machine-gun-laws-us/story?id=50256580

And then they are heavily regulated.

I just pointed that out and somehow you "missed" it

 

The AR-15 is a .22-caliber centerfire rifle.

 

You buy a tax stamp for $200.

 

Yup.

Let's avoid that (intentional) confusion. Ban any magazine fed semi-auto rifle...and possibly any magazine fed semi-auto weapon