Cops, your “Shoot First, Ask Questions Later”policy has to stop

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    A question like that is most likely beyond anyone who relishes defending Murderous Cops.
     
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    Have you ever held a job dealing with the public, where your boss didn't have your back, and whose default position was to question your motives and judgment upon every raised issue, thereby leaving you exposed to every sicko with an attitude that comes along, where you have to defend yourself from both sides in a crossfire? And what if your job AND your life were on the line? No pressure there.
    You may think that automatic support for the Police holds the potential for corruption and abuse. But you cannot then justly say that immediate condemnation of the Police holds not an equal potential. That said, I believe that we are as beholden to support the Police as we would our own spouse, because they are us.
     
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    As long as people like you have their way...true
     
  5. Questerr

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    Did I claim that? Many commands, like police leadership, would rather cover up and incident rather than have their unit be disgraced.
     
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    Get used to it.
     
  7. Lesh

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    Well you'd be wrong again...some things never change
     
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    You left it vague...'Hence violating the ROE and consequences.' I just wanted clarification. Thank you.
     
  10. TrackerSam

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    CRIME
    Cop shoots caretaker of autistic man playing in the street with toy truck
    When a 23-year-old autistic man carrying a toy truck wandered from a mental health center out into the street Monday, a worker there named Charles Kinsey went to retrieve him.
    “He throws his hands up in the air and says, ‘Don’t shoot me.’ They say lie on the ground, so he does,” Kinsey’s attorney Hilton Napoleon said Wednesday. “He’s on his back with his hands in the air trying to convince the other guy to lie down. It doesn’t make any sense.”
    Cellphone video footage obtained by Napoleon clearly shows the heavy-set autistic man sitting and playing with his toy while Kinsey, dressed in a yellow shirt and shorts, obeys police orders to lie down on his back.

    The video, taken before the officer fired his weapon, shows Kinsey on his back with his hands in the air telling police he didn’t have a weapon and asking them not to fire.

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    Kinsey said when he asked the officer why he fired his weapon, the cop responded, “I don’t know.”

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article90905442.html

    In broad daylight as well.
     
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    Sez you

    But the police do not shoot people who do as they are told
     
  12. Questerr

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    I doubt there are fewer cops murdered by criminals than 20 years ago
     
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    Have you forgotten what you posted? Let me remind you "Show us one video of a person standing stock still with their hands raised, and then being shot by the police."
     
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    Yes he was and he was still shot.

    By the way, didn’t you ask to provide “one” link?
     
  17. logical1

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    One video of a person with his hands empty in the air and doing what he was told to do.
     
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    You can't, you don't have half a second. And you don't have a squad to help you verify either. You've got one guy and he may not have as good a view as you do, and he may not be there.
     
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    My “squad” was three people. We still held to the ROE.
     
  20. garyd

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    Yep just like the cop when someone spins towards with something that may well be a weapon.
     
  21. garyd

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    Last I checked three is 50% more than 2 and 3 times as many as one.
     
  22. Questerr

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    Someone who is trained is supposed to be able to fight the reflexive instinctive actions that an untrained person would have.
     
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    Still not that much.
     
  24. garyd

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    More than enough.
     
  25. Questerr

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    Then two should be “enough” yes?
     

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