Arm the teachers...seriously?

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  1. kungfuliberal

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    And your point? Because the operative theme here is DRIVING THEM ON PUBLIC ROADS USED FOR CIVILIAN AND COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC!
     
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    BS. Ive been pulled over lots of times and couldnt find my registration. State Patrol just says to find it for next time, because the plate didnt come back stolen. They dont gaf about the car after that.

    And I never said hauling a car = driving a car. I said hauling a car doesnt require it to be registered. It only has to be registered if you're driving it. Until you use it in public (or until its reported stolen) its just a chunk of metal. Just like a gun. The difference is, when you're using a gun in public, its either to break the law or to respond to someone else breaking the law. Unlike a car, a gun goes unused the vast majority of its existance.

    The point is: registering a gun like a car would be asinine. A car is only required by law to be registered when its being used on public property. When you say 'register guns like cars' you're being disingenuous. You're not advocating that guns only be registered for use in public like cars. You're advocating that they must be registered merely to be owned and kept at all, which is not 'like cars.'
     
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    I have experience dealing with liberals who are guided by emotion rather than logic

    And gun control is an emotional issue for them

    So I know where liberals are going with this even if many of them dont
     
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    The truth may be painful but it is not slander it is the truth. What can't I prove.?
     
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    I think he’s talking about incidents with armed teachers in Texas. I haven’t heard of any, good or bad.
     
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    Why would you not encourage responsibilie adults tasked with looking after your children to also defend their lives should the worst happen?
     
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    And abortion is an emotional issue for you.
     
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    I still don’t understand the naïveté that somehow I as the teacher would be able to fend off a mass killer. Unless I had my gun on me and unless the shooter gives me a warning we would all be dead. Shooters use the element of surprise.
     
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    There are no guarantees nor have I suggested such. That said, given the choice of cowering behind a desk, using my body as a shield like the heroic gym teacher at MSDHS, or being equipped to shoot back, I’ll take the latter. I could still end up dead. That often happens during a gunfight.

    And of course your weapon would be on your person - that is the only safe place to keep it in a school.
     
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    it was a counter point that because cars are registered then guns should be registered.. Just pointing out that that logic is flawed because its currently guns and cars are already "registered" the same way

    you want to drive a car on public roads? You have to have a licence and registration.. You want to walk around in public with a loaded gun? then most states have you register for a conceal carry permit..

    Keep your guns and cars at home? no registration needed..
     
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    Yeah, you are throwing BS....because being pulled over "lots of times" without getting ticket AND without registration means that either your state or local cops are incompetents or you're lying. And the chronology of the post makes you out to be either a liar or incapable of recounting what you post. Time and again you some other desperate gunner put forth this stupidity regarding car licensing and registration. No matter how much you dance, the bottom line is that you need a drivers license & registration to drive a car on public highways...and if you're a collector that doesn't drive, you need a state ID along with a registered bill of sale proving the car is yours should you ever sell it.
    A gun is a killing machine, whether defensive or offensive. License and registration would apply the same as a car as previously described, whether you use it/sell it or not. The reason being is that it would help close off "iron pipelines" to criminals in states that have stricter gun laws....do some easy research on that, please. Why folk like you are terrified at a simple procedure that would aide in keeping guns out of criminals hands is beyond me.
     
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    Actually, there has:

    January 22: Italy, Texas
    A 15-year-old student was wounded in a shooting at a high school in Italy, Texas, authorities said. The suspect, also 15, was quickly apprehended.
     
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    You're still blowing smoke, as you can't logically or factually refute or disprove the OP or what I've put forth and documented.
     
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    Try following the chronology of the exchange, then DOCUMENT with VALID SOURCES what you put forth. I'll wait.
     
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    I know that nothing liberals are demanding will prevent the next wacko from wallking into any undefended school and killing a dozens students and teachers

    When that happens liberals will demand ever more gun control

    And more after that till no guns are left

    If we let you
     
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    Because they are TEACHERS, NOT professional armed guards. Given that you have incidents of teachers abusing their authority if not physically abusing students, introducing guns into the mix isn't a good idea.
     
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    You first sentence is flawed.....do some research as to the "iron pipeline" from states with lax gun laws to states with strict ones.

    Your lasts sentence is a complete failure in this respect.....who is to say that you are really purchasing that gun to stay at home. It's NOT a car, and can be easily concealed and/or sold.
     
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    At least the teachers and students would have a fighting chance

    As Brandon Lee demonstrated kungfu cant stop a bullet
     
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    Properly-trained adults pose no threat. We already entrust these professionals with our kids for up to forty hours per week.
     
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    Absolutely. Considering that the teacher will undergo training, they will be far more qualified than a rookie police officer. They are older and far more educated. Many of them have Masters Degrees or higher. They also know the children better than any cop and are already with the students to protect them. Texas has a school marshal program and it takes $5000-$7000/year to keep them trained and ready. How much does a rookie police officer cost to deploy? $60000? (salary, benefits, vehicles, uniforms, etc....) Already covered with a teacher. They only need training. They can provide their own gun.
     
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    Correct. Qualified teachers should be allowed to voluntarily carry on school grounds. As it stands today — in places like California — they can go to jail.
     
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    Yes you need a registration to drive ON PUBLIC ROADS or to SELL it.

    You say what I said, then call me a liar.

    Are you saying you should need a reg to use a gun on public property or sell it, or are you saying you should need a reg to have a gun at all?

    Because one regs guns 'like cars' and one regs guns FAR MORE than cars.
     
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    Be afraid..... now you know how women feel about abortion limits
     

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