Let's clear a few things up about the dossier.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The cultist's primary memes regarding the dossier are as follows--------"it's fake, and it illegitimately resulted in the issuance of the FISA warrants."

    As to "it's fake."

    HOW TRUE IS THE TRUMP-RUSSIA DOSSIER? ONE YEAR LATER, WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT ITS CLAIMS

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-one-year-later-what-we-know-777116

    Mueller has evidence Cohen was in Prague in 2016, confirming part of dossier

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article208870264.html

    So while parts of the dossier, which was a compilation of raw intel, not a finished product, have been verified, as far as I can recall none of it has been conclusively proven to be false.
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    As to "it was relied on to justify the FISA warrants, making them illegitimate."

    NUNES MEMO ACCIDENTALLY CONFIRMS THE LEGITIMACY OF THE FBI’S INVESTIGATION

    https://theintercept.com/2018/02/02/nunes-memo-fisa-trump-russia/

    Fact-Checking the GOP Russia Memo

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...memo-claims-and-how-that-squares-with-reality

    McCabe says Republicans 'mischaracterized' his testimony on Drumpf dossier

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/politics/mccabe-republicans-trump-dossier/index.html

    Democratic memo: FBI was investigating Drumpf campaign associates weeks before receiving dossier

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/24/democratic-memo-gop-fbi-trump-campaign-423446

    The fact of the matter is the dossier was NOT the primary source of info used in acquiring the FISA warrants, information about the nature of the dossier was NOT withheld from the FISA court, and Andrew McCabe did NOT say the FISA warrants would never have been issued without the dossier.

    Glad I could clear that up for you.
     
  2. Stevew

    Stevew Well-Known Member

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    It isn't a lie that the DoJ's Inspector General has taken up an investigation of FISA WARRANT ABUSE.

    Steve
     
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    No more lies from the Trump cult.

    "The fact of the matter is the dossier was NOT the primary source of info used in acquiring the FISA warrants, information about the nature of the dossier was NOT withheld from the FISA court, and Andrew McCabe did NOT say the FISA warrants would never have been issued without the dossier."
     
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  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely true. But largely due to the insistence of Repubs who have been making false accusations about the FISA warrant process for months.
     
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    You poor brainwashed dems haven't got a clue what is about to hit dems, corrupt bureaucrats and the establishment politicians in the Nov election.

    Steve
     
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  6. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hmmmmmmm, looks like you changed the subject there. As though the election results this fall has something to do with the misinformation about the FISA warrants bouncing around inside the right wing media bubble.
     
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    They went to the FISA court and were turned down. They added the dossier and got the FISA warrant. Pretty apparent they could not get one without it.
     
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    One rehashed report about Cohen in Prague that had already been proven wrong but hey, you will believe anything.
     
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    You know who else is being investigated?...
     
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    These operatives aren't so concerned about truth, just subterfuge. That's what David Brock pays for.
     
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    I'm not listening to any clown who at the beginning of his post refers to his fellow Americans as "cultists".

    The inability to show basic respect to ones fellow Americans is a bigger threat to this country than the worst President Trump might do.
     
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    So facts are not important, only belief. Got it.
     
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    Clapper leaked it to CNN. As his last function as Director of DNI and first paycheck at CNN, Clapper instructed Comey to show it to Trump and report to CNN when the deed was done so they could publish it. Clapper performed as instructed and was rewarded with a cush job at CNN.

    As Comey testified, he performed his assignment to the letter and did no more, like telling Trump it was opposition research funded by Hillary, authored by a foreign national with claims provided by the KGB.

    Everyone got what they deserved. Clapper got his job with CNN and Comey got his well deserved termination.

    I forgot to mention that CNN was recognized for receiving the 2 Clapper communications and the fact that Clapper is not in jail means that not everyone got everything they deserved.
     
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  14. PrincipleInvestment

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    Lies about the dossier? You mean Comey's lies about the dossier, right? Comey maintained that he was unaware of HRC / DNC funding the dossier as recently as April 2018. So how does Comey introduce any portion of a document he can't even source, let alone independently verify, to FISA, as evidence? Sessions was advised by congressional OVERSIGHT chairman Nunes, that DOJ protocol which demands that ALL material submitted to FISA meet the courts expectation in terms of accuracy and FULL disclosure of the means by which it was collected, had been purposely violated, repeatedly. The OIG was subsequently tasked with investigating the investigators. McCabe's been fired and the OIG recommends criminal prosecution. Comey "declined" to testify before committee yesterday. Apparently he has zero interest in clearing anything up. But that's OK, the OIG report will do that for him.
     
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  15. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Prove it.
     
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    To date, not one single item from the dossiar has proven to be un-true. Quite a few have proven to BE true.
     
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    No such thing as alt-right, particularly when referred to by liberal progressives who amount to a fringe 6% of the population. Let the IG be the referee. Lefties led by the NYT are already admitting to everything we have claimed and you denied to try to water down the impact of the IG report. Wonder if the crimes committed by Comey, Clapper, Obama, Hillary, etc. will be investigated after the IG report is released.
     
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    Cohen went to Prauge......he must be guilty. Maybe he communicated with the Russians through Mental Telepathy.
     
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    Evidently from California at that!
     
  20. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In classic Trumpist fashion Don wants to disparage those who seek to bring him to justice. I think we are going to be revisiting the false accusations about the dossier and the oranges........sorry origins.........of the investigation in the coming weeks.
     
  21. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are ramping up the narrative.

    Pence Hops On Barr’s ‘Spying’ Train: We Need To ‘Get To The Bottom’ Of This

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pence-get-to-bottom-fbi-spying

    As usual, Vice President Mike Pence parroted the party line Friday, saying that he finds the FBI’s efforts to determine wither Russia was using the Trump campaign to interfere in the election — termed “spying” by Attorney General William Barr — “very troubling.”

    “We’ve got to get to the bottom of how all this started,” he told Fox News’ Sandra Smith. “The American people have a right to know how this investigation even began.”
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    No one should under estimate the right wing media machine's ability to flip the topic from Don's obstruction of justice to wing nut conspiracy theories about why the FBI began the Russia investigations. We've seen this movie before.
     
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    Let's clear a few things up about the dossier. Let's do the investigation with due diligence.
     
  23. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ‘Investigate the investigators’ is new Trump rallying cry to counter Mueller report

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...3217240a539_story.html?utm_term=.a2ca25176532

    For President Trump’s reelection effort, “Investigate the investigators!” is becoming the new “Lock her up!”

    Trump and his allies, seeking to amplify claims that the FBI spied on his 2016 campaign, are seizing on news reports and statements by Attorney General William P. Barr to launch a political rallying cry they view as an antidote to special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s findings.

    Dismissed by critics as an outlandish conspiracy theory, so-called “spygate” is fast becoming a central feature of the Trump campaign as it seeks to go on offense in the wake of a report that identified 10 instances of potential obstruction of justice by Trump. The campaign is publicly calling for criminal investigations into former FBI officials, making “spygate” fundraising pitches and selling spy-themed merchandise. The goal, officials said, is to turn the Russia probe into a political winner that could help him secure another term.
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    If Don had really been exonerated they wouldn't be yelling this loud, trying to change the subject.
     
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    tenor_2.gif ^^ :roflol: ^^ Counter his exoneration.
     
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    dup.
     
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