Let's clear a few things up about the dossier.

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Should Trump win in 2020 I confidently expect to see Barr screaming at Mueller on TV in a show trial before he is dragged off and shot. This will be after he has executed Hillary and Obama and most of the other "enemies of the people" who have tried to unseat him in the "soft coup".

    The scary thing is he is not even trying to hide what he is doing any more. "Let's investigate the investigators" Oh, that should REALLY make people feel safe about criticising the government.
     
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    All you need to know is that it was unverified and salacious according to Comey. The claims were not proven to be true, yet it was used by Obama's weaponized administration to try to prevent Trump from being elected, and when that failed, they were going to use it to get him impeached. Some wonderful party you have there. Do ANY Democrats have morals, scruples or values ? This is a VERY dangerous situation that Obama put the US in. He used Third World tactics...
     
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    The extremist rws are goofy.

    Barr had a bad week.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/mccarthy-agrees-trump-part-russia-probe-was-attempted-coup

    This is exactly how these crazy, conspiratorial narratives take life. The WH begins to push the meme. Congressional sycophants pick up on it. Right wing media starts to amplify it. The shock jocks on conservative talk radio and Faux push it hard. Congressional Dems are asked to comment on it.

    Before you know it, the crazy is normalized, spoken about as if it wasn't completely nuts. Like for example, an investigation the FBI would have been negligent had they not started it due to multiple, suspicious, unreported contacts between members of a presidential campaign and operatives of a foreign adversary gets transformed in to a coup. Mostly based on complete fabrications by the usual suspects..........the WH and right wing media.

    Lisa Page explains why she and Strzok talked 'insurance policy' about Trump

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/12/politics/lisa-page-peter-strzok-insurance-policy/index.html

    What the Strzok-Page ‘insurance policy’ text was actually about

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...xt-was-actually-about/?utm_term=.5f2bf5c43286
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are not going to like what follows but you will also drink the Kool-Aid when the players like Comey profess to be pure.
     
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    Interesting you brought that up,
    CNN Poll: Overwhelming Majority Want Investigation into Obama DOJ Spying on Trump
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    “The American public increasingly feels that Democrats in Congress are going too far in investigating the President,” CNN reports. “44% say Democrats are doing too much on that score, up from 38% saying so in March. That shift stems largely from independents, 46% of whom now say congressional Democrats are going too far.”
    "But the most interesting part of the is that “69% think Congress ought to investigate the origins of the Justice Department's inquiry into Russian interference in the 2016 election, including 76% of Democrats, 69% of independents and 62% of Republicans.” In other words, an overwhelming majority of Americans believe that the Obama Justice Department’s actions in 2016 should be investigated."

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/cnn-po...investigation-into-obama-doj-spying-of-trump/
     
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  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's hard to know for sure what the intent behind this is. To get the discussion off of Trump's obstruction of justice or to send a message to potential whistle blowers that your life will be ruined if you expose Trump's corruption.
     
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    No collusion or obstruction except in the minds of the sufferers. That ship has moved on. The idea that a WH would start an investigation on an American and political opponent without any predicate crime is bad enough, but the continued effort after Trump was elected is called sedition and a thousand times worse than Watergate ever was.
     
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    What other evidence was used?
    Quickly
     
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    Saul Alinsky said to accuse your opponents of that which you are doing, not INVESTIGATE your opponents of that which you are doing.
     
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    Yes, he did what he said he would do which went beyond what he was legally required to do. The dems go nuts anyway.
     
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    Not just Trump's corruption ANYBODY'S corruption. If this idea takes hold and becomes precedent the US Government will become a pure dictatorship in every way. Anyone investigating any aspect of government will be liable to attack themselves.
     
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    It would appear Trumpists don't feel that strategy is having enough of an impact.

    However, I'm betting just like the "lock her up" canard was used as a rhetorical tool so too will be calls to investigate the investigators. Because just like with Hillary, the result of investigations exposes the underlying lies of their claims.
    Trumpists would prefer to use media disinformation campaigns like those surrounding the "insurance policy" rather than delve too deeply for fear of the whole thing blowing up in their faces.
     
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    This is a stretch that would make the rubber-armed man jealous.
     
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    Oddly, I don't remember the Steel Dossier being at all part of the campaign
     
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    It was shopped to many outlets before the election but only one outlet eventually published it, Buzzfeed.
     
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    Since you first presented this political screed of fake news the New York Times itself has finally admitted recently that it does look like the Russians sold Hillary Clinton a disinformation document filled with lies about Trump. Sucks to be a leftist shallower of propaganda when the Left's own premier political propaganda outlet of record The New York Times admits that the jig is up in regards to the dossier.
     
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    Because it wasn't. Public information about it's existence didn't emerge until very late in the campaign. For all the whining Trumpists do about the dossier they have apparently forgotten it played no role in the election.
     
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    Of course it did. It was shopped before the election around July and reporting started on parts of it like Isakoff’s article that was actually used as backup for the dossier in the FISA warrant on Page. Sort of like using the dossier to support the dossier.
     
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    Did they the bedwetting Russian hookers?
     
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    He said without futilely attempting to refute the facts.
     
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    Lack of respect is Trump's main "strength" as a politician and as a human.

    Also, are you aware of the names the right calls the left or anyone not on their "team" day in and day out?
     
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