SPYGATE: Trump blasts Criminal Deep State amid reports of FBI informant spying on campaign

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  1. icehole3

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    Clapper admits there's spying but they were good spies and Trump should be happy. Start at 2.23

     
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    You should probably re-read that

    Clapper said:
    Clapper clearly says that the person wasn't spying on the Trump campaign but that they would have been there telling the FBI what was happening. There is a YUUUUGGEEEEE difference between an informant, and a spy. One is placed there purposely, the other is there on their own and telling volunteering information.
     
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    Stiiiiill waiting for any proof of any kind of illegal activity here.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That has been confirmed by Simpson, after the funding source was already revealed in a lawsuit against Fushion GPS, when he testified in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee. Fushion was working for the Dems, which involved Russian sourcing.

    Also: The funders, the DNC and Clinton campaign, were only discovered thanks to a lawsuit brought by a technology mogul who was smeared in the document. The billionaire had sued Fusion GPS along with a mainstream media outlet that posted the entire document to its website for everyone to read. In his suit, he gained access to Fusion GPS’s bank accounts and discovered who had paid for the research.
     
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    None of it was
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the FBI spys on a campaign and uses an unverified document with links to shady Russian sources to basically protect Trump from the Russians ???

    By the way, can I you sell some free range air ?
     
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    And the left assumes its Default Position, started with the exposed Obama Swamp KGB-FBI/DOJ texts:

    heads in sand.jpg
     
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    1) The investigation predates the document you are talking about 2) Portions of the document were verified, according to Congress -- even the Republicans running interference have admitted it was at least "minimally corroborated 3) If by "spying" you mean the same sort of undercover work the FBI does every single day . . . in order to find out if the there was any truth to the report from an Australian diplomat that Russia was attempting contact with the campaign (and there was truth to it, seeing as Papadopoulos has admitted to that), then sure. Again, what about that is illegal? I noticed you didn't bother to address that question. And what do you mean about "to basically protect Trump from the Russians"?

    I keep asking for evidence. Trumpeters keep refusing.
     
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    The "investigation" PREDATES THE INVESTIGATION. Trump campaign personnel were being approached by Obama Swamp PAID PLANTS before the alleged "start" of the investigation.
     
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    I've asked you for evidence of this before. Do you have it now? The only "plant" you have produced so far contacted the campaign MONTHS after their initial contact with Russian assets, and after the FBI was alerted to these communications.
     
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    You genuinely didn't know this? Do you know who Christopher Steele is?
     
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    The FBI intentionally planted information, through the use of paid individuals, who pursued individuals associated with the Trump campaign. (400K and 250K)

    The illegal part of this is that it occurred without a warrant.

    The Australian diplomat was required by the rules of the 5 member intelligence agreement to report anything that occurred on UK soil to UK officials.

    Didn't happen and was illegal.

    The next illegal part of this involves the lying by Rosenstein, Clapper others about all of it to both the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    Grassley has made several criminal referrals.

    Next comes McCabe, who is also under criminal referral for lying about the FBI investigation.
    And also in trouble for submitting the FISA information without verification. Comey and Rosenstein are contradicting each other.

    The ONLY thing you can claim is that no one has been convicted YET.
     
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    SPYGATE is the new Watergate... Pretty straight forward and accurate !!!
     
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    You mean you didn't know that Hillary Clinton bought a made up dossier on Trump from the Russians via her Fusion GPS cut out of Steele and then the FBI -- KNOWING that it was a phony dossier -- used that in turn to get a FISA warrant? Tsk, tsk, tsk. See what happens when you really do think that CNN (the Counterfeit News Network) and NBC's propaganda network MSNBC are real news outlets? But anyway, now you know. No charge.
     
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    Psssst, The Left's sacred New York Times finally admitted that there was a spy, only they claimed that he was spying on Trump and company in order to help them out. Sort of like infecting someone with an STD so that they won't be lonely.
     
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    Yes, I'm aware of the informant that approached them in September, months after the campaign was in contact with Russians. We've been over the whole time travel theory before. Nothing here has anything to do with what I asked.

    This is exactly what I was talking about when I said, "3) If by "spying" you mean the same sort of undercover work the FBI does every single day . . . in order to find out if the there was any truth to the report from an Australian diplomat that Russia was attempting contact with the campaign (and there was truth to it, seeing as Papadopoulos has admitted to that), then sure. Again, what about that is illegal?"
     
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    "Planted"? He was a Russian asset who reached out to the campaign offering to collude. Papadopoulos pursued. In case I lost you, you were supposed to be providing your evidence that Mifsud was one of these "Obama Swamp PAID PLANTS." Again, you guys need to work on that whole timeline thing.
     
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    I doubt they can digest it.
     
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    What Russian sourcing...you mean the Brit who found info on the Russians and was paid by Fusion ? How is that Dem Collusion ?
     
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    I love how this "spying" thing is now some "fact" in the alt-right universe.

    The document was used VERY narrowly in the quest for the warrant. But you already knew that
     
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    Yeah, hes a BRIT ;)
     
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    However it seems that meeting was a set-up and took place well after the spying began. Also, why would a conversation with a low level US volunteer, having a drink with an Aussie in London, lead to contacting the Australian SS, then the FBI and CIA in the States? Doesn't that strike you as a bit of overkill?
     
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    Christopher Steele was paid by Hillary Clinton and the DNC. Why is a British spy being paid by the the Clintons to buy information from the Russians?
     
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