SPYGATE: Trump blasts Criminal Deep State amid reports of FBI informant spying on campaign

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    At some point the DNC funded it. They weren't the only ones. In fact, the dossier wasn't completed until after they, and Fusion GPS, were no longer involved with Steele. The FBI disclosed that the dossier was politically motivated, and according to even the Republicans running interference for Trump, they had some corroboration in order to get the FISA warrant. Or, should I say, renewal of FISA warrant if we are talking about Page here. He was under FISA warrant before he joined the campaign and it was renewed after he left the campaign, contrary to victim narrative Trumpeters are peddling.

    So, yes, the Dems hired a law firm who hired Fusion GPS who hired Steele who gathered intelligence from Russians in a dossier he didn't complete until after he was no longer under their employ. That's the strongest "proof" you have of Clinton collusion, and I'll say again as I have several times before, I think even that is worthy of some investigation.

    Meanwhile, the evidence we have of Trump team collusion is that 1) They were contacted by Russians with the offer to collude 2) The Trump team pursued those offers. Sorry, but there is no mental gymnastics that can make that any less than an exponentially stronger case.
     
  2. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well then I see you understand there was foreign involvement in a US election. The Brits, the Russians and the Aussies. So far.
     
  3. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    These contacts happened in April/May 2016. The "spying" began in September 2016. In what world is that "well after the spying began"? And in what world would the FBI NOT investigate a strong lead that the Russians were attempting to influence a presidential campaign? Doesn't that strike you as insanely negligent?
     
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    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    Seems safe to say Trump has been caught in way more lies than CNN. Where do you get the confidence that Trump is honest and CNN is wrong? Is it just part of being conservative and having faith?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In fact those 'meetings' were part of the set-up.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Source?
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wait...so Carter Page, who was ALREADY under surveillance by the FBI for meetings with foreign governments, and George Papadopoulos was meeting with Russians, and has been INDICTED and PLED GUILTY for lying about it, are the bellwether to spying on the Trump campaign ? just WOW. Did you ever consider that thats kind of an admission of guilt ? And did you ever think, based on what you posted here, that MAYBE the FBI was investigating ties with a foreign government, and not "spying on the Trump campaign" ? You guys act like just because your running for President, that your above the law and cant be investigated ?

    Investigating and spying are wayyyyy far apart.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    thats a pretty good game of 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon.....

    You made so much up here that its hard to pick which is the easiest to burst that bubble with....OK,,,,ill start with.........."used it to get the FISA warrant".....which they used only one accusation in the dossier to get the warrant, and it turned out to be TRUE !!!!!! And the ultimate Irony here is....it was this "revelation" of Spying that outed it. Carter page and Popodopulous DID meet with the Russians....BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    shhh, they were spying on the Russians, who...wait for it....were MEETING with Trump associates !!!!!
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He was paid by Fusion GPS....and by the way, their is no law against opposition research.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, but only 2 of them are allies ;)
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unless it's against Hillary Clinton. Then it's called "Collusion".
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm concerned now how reliable Five Eyes really is. Were they compromised?
     
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    "their is no law against opposition research"

    Unless TRUMP!?
     
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    He was part of the Big Lie. And it was no "coincidence" Downer was who finished the SETUP.
     
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    So that's a pass again on any kind of evidence. Got it.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Why would I bookmark something that doesn't answer my question and still doesn't prove your claim that the FBI investigation began BEFORE Papadopoulos's meeting with Mifsud?

    Also, you state that the Mifsud and Downer meetings were part of the set up . . . and then link to a "timeline" article that doesn't even mention Misfud or Downer.

    You produced a phony "timeline" that dishonestly leaves out the events that actually predated and triggered Halper's involvement.
     
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    Spygate....here we go.
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Is the evidence somewhere under all that popcorn????? Finally!
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The timeline was to help you know what's going on because it's apparent you don't have a clue.. It was a courtesy.

    You didn't understand the timeline, it was explained to you in detail, yet you still don't get it. You needed to look at all the links or, if you really want to know what's going on, just Google their damn names. It's not that difficult.
     
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    I explained specifically what I was looking for and your timeline doesn't address it at all. In fact, if dishonestly leaves out exactly the facts I'm talking about, failing to even address their existence. You either don't know what I'm asking or you don't know the timeline you provided. I'm asking for proof Misfud and Downer were part of an FBI set up. Your timeline doesn't even discuss the two of them at all. So where is your evidence? And where is your evidence for the claim that the FBI investigation predates their meetings? Again, not on your timeline. It isn't my job to do your homework for you. "Courtesy" would involve actually addressing the debate, rather than throwing out a link that doesn't address the discussion and telling me to do more research to support your case because you haven't found anything that backs up your case.

    Hell, the only one of your links that actually mentions Mifsud . . . is the one that agrees with me.
     
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    I'll be blunt: There's nothing linking Misfud and Downer...yet in the public domain. But given that Papadoulous talked to Misfud and Downer talked to Papadoulous, the coincidence is very large and needs probing, and the IG now has that to probe.

    This is going to be very interesting, one way or another.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate the honesty.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It took just a few seconds to Google. http://www.businessinsider.com/prof...alleged-link-between-trump-and-russia-2017-10

    https://spectator.org/the-papadopoulos-affair-such-a-downer/
     

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