Muslim beaten to death in India for killing a cow

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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    Here is a 270 million
     
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    Just provide some reliable ones. My bet is that they turn up some extremely creative maths, but I'll happily accept something well documented.

    You made the claim, now back it up.
     
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    Where?
     
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    What would become Shia went into India, and Sunni went into Europe.

    All practicing their religion.
     
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    I'm not finding the info I was looking for, it was here years ago but not now, so I'll reduce my estimate from 350 million, to 270 to 300 million.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are Jews murdering Gays? Adulterers? Young girls? Forming grooming gangs? Murdering innocents over a cartoon? Commiting international terrorism?

    Nah! It's all Muslim.
     
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    Do you think Muslims kept records? Would 'millions' be good enough?
     
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    Yeah, that makes sense. "People of the Book" (Jews and Christians) could pay the "jyzya" tax, be second class citizens and be left alone. Hindus on the other hand were considered "pagans" and their choice was "convert or die". I guess lots of them didn't feel like dieing and converted to Islam. That's why we have so many Pakies today, although genetically they are Indians.
     
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    Because people like you are back in their Christian / American arrogance ... how can it be otherwise ... the general theme of "evil Islam" and some low brainer seriously say that the Indian Muslims can indeed flee to Pakistan, etc.
     
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    Yeah, and what's wrong with that?
    Wolves and dears can NOT live together.
    If you want to be an ***hole, go to ***holeland.
     
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    Where did I display any "Christian/American arrogance"?

    Islam is the most backward religion ever to befall humankind. It's full of hate, prejudices and ignorance.

    However, if I am wrong, please point out any qualities Islam may have that isn't available elsewhere. In fact please post anything positive you can find about Islam.
     
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    Do I understand you correctly ... Since the Muslim does not stick to the idiotic religious Hindu law in India, should he piss off to Pakistan?

    OK, who turns against the mullahs and their idiotic religious laws in Iran with protests, which can also **** off as well ... best in the US who also hate the mullahs, okay?
     
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    By all means.
    That was the original idea when Pakistan seceded from India - that Muslims and Hindus live apart. Right?
    If a Muslim doesn't like it in India, he can **** OFF.

    Oh wait, I forgot Muslims want to swallow the world...
     
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    Well Pence already wants to hang all gays. Not long before the US is pulled into Christian fascism - which is at base what all this hatred and killing of Muslims is about as they work for their believed bible prophecy in the ME, killing any in their way.

    Genuine Christians are very decent people and likely to be one of the first the Christian Right work to destroy.

    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-radical-christian-right-and-the-war-on-government/
     
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    Wenn I quote all the posts, I will need the rest of the day for it ...

    The arrogant, what exactly you are showing here again is:

    1. Islam is as good or evil as any other idiotic religion on the planet! The problem are above all the extremists in every religion and there are many in Islam today who are far louder than the majority of Muslims ...
    On top of that, this extremist scam also brazenly falsifies the contents of the Koran to justify the terror ... and unfortunately, that's what many believe, including the low brainers who chater the same trash of the islamist like a parrot to back their Anti Islam reasons!
    Are Christians and Jews evil "unbelievers" according to the Koran? No they are not! The Islamists claim that, not only few believe it and the Islam haters take over this lie like a parrot 1: 1!
    In addition, as in any religion translation errors from one language to another language exist very difficult ... and of course you then like to take this translation, which you like!

    2. Islam did not experience secularization and reformation like Christianity did. State and church were and are never separated in Islam ... say the sultans and kings and caliphs and whatever rank are also at the same time a spiritual leader! And until the end of the Ottoman Empire, everything was under the control of the Sultan in Istanbul!

    3. The glorious West ... but also sometimes the East here and there ... doing its best since 100 years, that does not change anything ... because they consistently support all the barbarous regimes in the Islamic countries as alleged friends and allies. Any opposition wanting democratic rights will be ruthlessly suppressed with help from Washington, Europe and the East!
    And then the Muslims are guilty of it themselves because these religious bastards backed by us are in power, who use religion to maintain their power? Come on...

    4. Then we still have the Christian hypocrisy, which also plays a role! Christianity is such a peaceful religion? Ridiculous! Christians have killed more people because of Christianity and in the name of Christianity than any other religion on this planet ... and ISIS, Hezbollah, Hamas, Taliban, Al Qaeda & Co still need 100 years of terror to reach those numbers!
    It is hypocritical when Christians come again and again with the New Testament as evidence of peaceful religion. On the one hand Christians do not adhere to these. things written in New Testament, on the other hand Chrites like to take the Old Testament when it comes to religiously motivated violence ... which also belongs to Christianity! And where is there something in the New Testament supposedly justifying the violence of Christian fundamentalists and extremists against abortion clinics and doctors, eh?

    5. Likewise, the Qur'an is an evolving thing in the story ... and this also results in conflicting content and versions! In place A stands this, but in place M the opposite of A is written!
    And is the Bible better? No ... who of you Christians believes, there stands only the complete word of God and of Jesus in it, is wrong! The New Testament is a version approved by a Roman emperor, where many things that existed before were removed. Jesus had 12 disciples, also called apostles, but only 4 have written so-called Gospels, the other 8 lived again their life of before Jesus and did nothing after the death of Jesus? Come on ...
     
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    Yes ... and Ghandi was incredibly excited about it as we all know! But the non-violent, half-naked lunatic was an idiot anyway, eh?

    14% of Indians are Muslims ... or in other words: That's 172 million people!

    But no matter ... as far as expulsions are concerned, you know you well in the USA too ... keyword natives!
     
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    You know whats funny, I just took your own words, your own code and applied it on the Quran and asked you a simple and the very same question you asked another user concerning the Nuremberg laws and you are unable to give an answer. To confuse the matter you put another question.

    The answer is no, I dont want to ban Judaism, but if their religous law contradict our laws here I give a **** about their religious feelings. If it was up to me I would rather today than tommorrow prohibit genital mutilation of little boys too up to the age where they can give consent and I would ban Kosher as well as Halal slaughter as well. The Jews who cannot live with that shall leave in peace. I would say the same to a Hindu who would insist on sutee, I dont give a **** about his religous feelings, if he can live here without burning widows its fine, if not he shall leave in peace.

    Oddly, here in Germany is no case of a Hindu who killed infidels although we slaughter cows, which will be most propably uncivilized to him and may be the ultimate insult to his religion. Strange isnt it?
     
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    When the Christians did it they were not following Christ

    But muslims are following the example of mohammed
     
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    I am no authority on the Torah but I doubt if you can support that claim
     
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    Your knowledge of history is seriously lacking. The British empire was founded on Christian missionaries and millions upon millions of "savages" were slaughtered during the conquests. We then also have the French, Dutch and Spanish empires to add to the murders founded on Christianity. Every army were accompanied by missionaries to preach to the savages or die. Perhaps in your mind, these savages just rolled over and submitted to the invaders
     
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    I am a grown up with an appropriate reading ability. If I want to find historical information I read it. I read articles with properly conducted research & proper referencing where possible. Because I can read at an adult level I don't have any interest in spending 45 minute listening to a lecture when I could read the same information in a fraction of the time. I am also not interested in wasting 45 minutes listening to a physicist using a pseudonym talk about history.

    The increasing use of videos as reference points speaks to the desperate desire of some people to be told exactly what they want to hear by a talking head or some nice graphics, and the inability of some people to read very well. It is further evidence of the infantilizing of people's intellect. Adults read.


    Does he claim that? You sure? I know he went a bit off the deep end in his final years, but I don't think he ever lost it quite that badly. You need to do a bit more research before claiming stuff like this. Sort of emblematic of all your posts.

    Congratulations on finding something written, even if it is a highly partisan & terribly written blog post. Once again you provide someone using a pseudonym, and in this case without any way to check his credentials.

    As for the information in the article, the author repeatedly dismisses any alternate claims as 'Muslim apologists', makes a string of fanciful or outright false claims, and references in such a way that it is impossible to check some of the key claims he makes. Oh, and he gets the spelling of 'Khan' wrong. Not exactly a tricky one. Not a good sign.

    Lets get specific:

    I would LOVE to see where the Government of bangladesh claims that over 2 million Hindus were killed in the genocide. I challenge anyone to produce a source for that. Won't hold my breath. It does claim 3 million dead. Given the politics of Bangladesh & the way the figure was arrived at it is questionable at best. Millions of people fled Bangladesh in 1970-71 & many did not return. Three million is certainly possible, but hardly 'proven'. Not an encouraging start.

    BTW, this is the only part of the article that has any meaningful references. Most of them are simply accounts of the appalling atrocities committed in Bangladesh & do not speak to the total dead. There is no doubt that Pakistan (with US assistance) committed a terrible mass murder in Bangladesh in 1970-71. There is also no doubt 'bernie' is making stuff up.

    Complete & total BS. Hindu civilization didn't get past the Philippines. I am sure Hindus traded with Japan, but that is not remotely the same thing.

    The reference for this does not work, but I'm betting it is a questionable assertion by an individual rather than some scholarly article.

    The reference for this one does exist. It is a polemic by a guy who aligns himself with more extreme elements of Hinduism. It makes a succession of unsourced claims, though he does provide a source for the '80 million' claim. Personally I'd love to read the specifics of how that was calculated. The article also claims close to 60 million people killed in the Christian conquest of the Americas. Would you accept that as accurate?

    The website hosting the article claims:

    Not really a website I'd be holding up as reliable.

    I really hope you have something better than 'bernie' and some physicist on youtube to back up your figures.

    This is one of the few accurate statements you have made. Nobody really knows. That doesn't mean you can just pull a figure out of your rear & claim it as a 'fact'.
     
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    I figured you'd go there next - Muslims always do things for religious reasons, Christians never do. More BS, but I guess when you are just making stuff up BS is all you have to work with.

    Try again.
     
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    You are mixing apples and oranges

    The british empire was founded on a desire for power and wealth

    Any Christian missionaries who followed the british army were strictly an afterthought
     

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