Trump stuns allies, won’t sign G-7 joint agreement

Well said.

 

facts have no influence on trump supporters, the false patriots.

 

I don't have to figure it out, I never had any doubt about it.

 

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BY KIMBERLY AMADEO

Updated February 16, 2018
The North American Free Trade Agreement's history began in 1980. Its purpose is to reduce trading costs, increase business investment and help North America be more competitive in the global marketplace. The agreement is between Canada, the United States, and Mexico. For more details, see NAFTA Fast Facts.

What is its history?
The impetus for NAFTA began with President Ronald Reagan, who proposed a North American common market in his campaign.

In 1984, Congress passed the Trade and Tariff Act. That gave the president "fast-track" authority to negotiate free trade agreements. It removes Congressionalauthority to change negotiating points. Instead, it allows Congress only the ability to approve or disapprove the entire agreement. That makes negotiation much easier for the administration. Trade partners don't have to worry that Congress will nitpick specific elements.


https://www.thebalance.com/history-of-nafta-3306272

It seems there are those who forgot who created many of these free trade agreements. At one time, considered the hero of the RW.

 

I absolutely loathe Trump, but I like that he did this. "Free Trade" is a euphemism for global hegemony and repression. I favor a path of decentralization and patchwork, so I favor any action that undermines things like G7.

 

What is important is less who did it than what has it done to this country. for some time now our biggest export has been American jobs. It is not 1984 anymore and conditions have changed, we should too.

 

Trump has started an unprovoked and unilateral trade war with the third largest trading block in the world.

Like most of his hard core supporters, he is stupid enough to work on the misplaced belief that he can go around insulting and degrading people and they will come back. Again, like his parochial base, he thinks that none of this brinksmanship will have any long term inpact on America's relationships with the allies it has had in its corner for 75 years.

He is wrong,and so are Trumpsters.

Trump seems to approach our European and Japanese and South Korean allies with the same chip on his shoulder as everything else. He seems to have absorbed the isolationist bar talk meme that the US is an aggreived victim (as most of Trump's nearly all white base believes they are), and thinks the world owes him or the United States something.

That sense of entitlement does not make friends or build futures.

 

Reagan is now a Liberal.....didn't you get the memo? That's why the true patriots stole his "MAGA" thingy, he didn't need it anymore.

 

I guess you don't mind being used. Europe expects us to pay for them and protect them. I, for one, am sick of footing the bill. Trade should be fair among "allies." S Trump said, we can't and won't be their piggy bank. You say that Trump alienated our allies and picked our rivals. Isn't that exactly what the Left does? They pick rivals over the welfare of Americans. They pick rivals instead of supporting our president. What have Merkel and Trudeau and Macron done for US? Their constituents are not happy with them and it looks as though Merkel picked immigrants over the welfare of Germans. Let's see how they handle this and Iran now that they're in charge. My guess is thst thry will be calling the US for help soon. At least Italy agreed with us. The rest want their cake and eat it too. They owe us. We don't owe them. Instead of criticizing everything Trump does, try a little support and don't be so bitter.

 

It's hard to trust hypocrites.
It was no secret in the 1980s what these trade agreements would do to American jobs.
The 1992 prez election was almost soley on the free trade agreements. Perot, dead set got many votes.
Bush lost.
Clinton won, and sold out the American worker via the R party and Newt Gingrich.

And after 25+ yrs of bleeding jobs, our economy is now getting to full steam ahead.
We've already been though the pain. What is hoping to be accomplished?
We will reduce our economy if we only trade with ourselves, at this point.

Globalization has already happened and will only continue to grow. We now, should remain out in front of this, not back away.
We started it, we adopted and molded it. We should now, stay the leaders of it.

 

Acutally, tRUMP and tRUMPers are now 'THE' liberals. If Ronnie was a TRUE conservative.

 

Being used?

No, I don't feel used.

I see the President of the United States abandoning America's role as a world leader, and declaring economic war on our allies.

He, like most of his supporters, are too parochial to realize that the United States is not a planet unto itself or that it is the only country in the world.

Nor is it the "one essential nation", and many described it, when it chooses no to lead.

But I can say that Vladimir Putin was thrilled at Trump's performance at the G-7.

Trump checks all the pro Russian boxes and left our allies in the lurch. Putin could not have asked for a more useful idiot.

I have seen many a Trumpster loudly cheer for this stupidy and brag about thier parochialism.

But when future Presidents find that their office does not have the cachet or influence it once had,they'll now that it was because of Trump's retreat.

Sorry, but the foreign policy of the 1920s will not serve us well in the 2020's. We've already seen how that turns out.

Betraying the legacy that the man we sent to Normady to fight for is not good for America, no matter how hard the xenophobic blowhards call for undermining the legacy of Churchill and Roosevelt.

 

The foreign policy of the 1920s didn't serve us well either.
If the great depression is used as the measuring stick. And it should be.

 

....uh........that's "Fake News" you Commie Socialist Liberal Traitor. Everyone knows Librals is whatever his highness sayses it bees.

 

Not at the expense of our working class being third world. The bleeding hasn't stopped and will not on it's own. What has been driving an economic resurgence has been the much hated oil industry. We're limping along on one leg and we need to stop worrying about what France and Germany think of us and take care of ourselves. That's what Trump is doing. He speaks fluent Blue Collar.

 

There is no doubt.
He's a blustering petulant spoiled juvenile.
Shows up late twice, leaves early, insults his host and allies and then because Canada says "it won't get pushed around" reacts like a child and opts out of a deal made. I find it hilarious at what Trump thinks is an insult to hissownself. For the supposed tough guy he sure acts like a ultra sensitive child with ADD.

Meanwhile he sucks up to Russia while trashing his allies. Disrupting the existing world order according to his boss's plan, while trashing America's international reputation.

Who knew that Make America Great Again, meant aligning with dictators and trashing allies. Makes a lot of sense to some, not so much to the vast majority of the world.

 

He's actively undermining western relationships and agreements dating back decades.

 

Well, the Trumpsters don't know any US history and less than nothing about foreign affairs.

I doubt that half of the could find Canada on a map.

Sorry, but Trumpsters seem to view the economy only in terms of manufacturing.

But manufacturing accounts for less than 20% of the US economy.

The last time manufacturing amounted to even half of the US economy was before most of the posters on this forum were born.

I have always found it odd that far right wingers buy the idiotic Trump meme about blast furnaces and coal mines as economic salvation. The industries of the 19th century will not lead us to renewed prosperity in the 21st.

But Trumpster buy the myth, and yearn for imaginary high paying low skill union jobs (without the unions). And when Trump trumpets the fact that Home Depot paid one time small cash bonuses, they think their ecoomic woes are over.

Yes the fat cat can get the working man to do his bidding. Rigth wingers on this forum make that point nearly every day, and multiple times on this thread alone.

Meanwhile they're stupid enough to believe that trade wars will bring US jobs, and there won't be any repurcussions.

 

Indeed, this should have been done at least a couple of decades earlier, when these relationships and agreements stopped making sense and when the members of these relationships and agreements turned to cheating, backstabbing and abusing them to rip America off.

That NATO members can't come up with their required lousy 2% contributions to mutual defense, while they don't hesitate to slap 25 - 250% tariffs on American goods pretty much exemplifies what these agreements and alliance have become.

LOL, that's actually funny, the dems (and the republicans before Trump) let American manufacturing to be essentially exterminated on their watch and now their argument against Trump's efforts to restore it is why bother with what our treasonous corrupt policies left in shambles. Duh

 

And it will take decades to get respect again, if we ever do.

 

You got any proof that the past 8 years of economic growth is driven by oil?

Trump may speak fluent blue collar, but in case you haven't noticed, there aren't many blue collar workers that have any clue about policy making and government and corporate decision making processes, nor any experience in assessing complex issues and the potential consequences of complex solutions.

But I get that a man born with a silver spoon in his mouth is pure blue collar. Who knew all it takes is to " like me" and be rich to be considered champion of the "blue collars".

 

Do you have a source for this? I presume you're making it up but I just want to call you out on it. Not that you're concerned with petty things like honesty.

 

Europe is USING the US. If you look at the approval ratings of Trudeau, Macron, Merkel and May, some are lower than Trump's. They are all bad. Trudeau betrayed Trump in order to get approval from the Canadians. He took on the US to save face, but it won't work. These people are inept. Without the US taking charge all the time, they are lost. I love the way Libs put down the US all the time and take the side of foreigners. The US is never right to them. Another reason they lost.

 

Good!

Trump, please don't cave to these Euro-weenies.

 

You keep regurgitating the talking points and not addressing what i said. That says a lot